Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Got if you would please.
Carlo Parisi: Remove that window.
Carlo Parisi: It's in front of the heater's panel.
Scott I. Reed: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. Thank you.
Scott I. Reed: Can you?
Scott I. Reed: Can you guys hear Josh if he talks?
Carlo Parisi: Yes.
Scott I. Reed: I am talking now.
Carlo Parisi: Yes, I can hear you.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, OK.
Carlo Parisi: When, when, when is not online, but he told me that it's gonna.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: I mean it's it's online, but it's not here.
Carlo Parisi: But he's gonna be back soon.
Scott I. Reed: Who? Who is him?
Scott I. Reed: Oh, OK, OK.
Carlo Parisi: Ben yeah.
Scott I. Reed: So we've, we've done the preliminary preparation
Scott I. Reed: work and we're actually to the point where we're about we're about to turn on
Scott I. Reed: the data logging and actually get into the real tests, so.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: If anybody is follow happens to be following along in the procedure.
Scott I. Reed: Not saying that you have to be but we are at step 12.5 point 1.3.
Scott I. Reed: Again, no one has to do so, but that's where we're at.
Scott I. Reed: Enable data logging.
Carlo Parisi: You say 12.5, right?
Scott I. Reed: Yes, 12.5 point 1.33.
Carlo Parisi: .3 OK, I have it.
Scott I. Reed: So.
Scott I. Reed: That is the primary data log.
Scott I. Reed: Are we doing for saving the TDMS data as well, right?
Scott I. Reed: I would assume so.
Scott I. Reed: OK. And those are both dated today.
Scott I. Reed: And we should be writing down that the number on there. Oh, OK yeah.
Scott I. Reed: EXILA.
Scott I. Reed: T.
Scott I. Reed: Ely.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Hey heater limit status.
Scott I. Reed: Being alone, oh, back here.
Scott I. Reed: Yep, contact the status.
Scott I. Reed: They are not green.
Scott I. Reed: 4 barrel tan.
Scott I. Reed: 1.
Scott I. Reed: Yep, one is lit, 4 is.
Scott I. Reed: Wife's Portland.
Scott I. Reed: Or is the high high?
Carlo Parisi: Hmm.
Scott I. Reed: Maybe just a second, we will check up there 'cause.
Scott I. Reed: Sometimes I get shorted at that. OK. OK.
Scott I. Reed: The high high is reading a connection, but Scott's gonna go check and see if the
Scott I. Reed: wire shorted, he said.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: That happens every once in awhile.
Carlo Parisi: Oh, OK, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: And.
Scott I. Reed: For the record, the P cat is is basically an ambient
Scott I. Reed: temperature.
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: Where 2627° on all the heaters.
Scott I. Reed: So we will be able to heat up to 50°.
Scott I. Reed: Per test 1.
Scott I. Reed: And that's why one is lit, which is the low low,
Scott I. Reed: but two which is the low is not lit. Once we get up above.
Scott I. Reed: 100 or so that will that will light up based on the thermal expansion.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: Right.
Scott I. Reed: So.
Scott I. Reed: It's still there.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, right.
Scott I. Reed: Cancellation around the top of the Pcat has a metal mesh.
Scott I. Reed: On the inside, and that occasionally shorts out the
Scott I. Reed: connection.
Carlo Parisi: Uh, huh. And yeah, now it's off, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Yep.
Scott I. Reed: Yep, it's off.
Scott I. Reed: They're gonna encase the wire in some tape to try to make sure it doesn't
Scott I. Reed: happen again, but it did go off, so that's good.
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: It's not. We're good now.
Scott I. Reed: Peter tab.
Scott I. Reed: Heater control scheme.
Scott I. Reed: Guys, good.
Scott I. Reed: OK. On the heater tab, confirm that the heater control scheme is.
Scott I. Reed: Steve.
Scott I. Reed: Heater control mode.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, it might not have.
Scott I. Reed: All had HMI.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Right to.
Scott I. Reed: No practical.
Scott I. Reed: It's all about that being our baseline technique.
Scott I. Reed: And then on the main tab, that's where you enable them.
Scott I. Reed: That will then start building.
Scott I. Reed: So Scotts still up there?
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Hey so I'm going to change the temperature setting to 50° C.
Scott I. Reed: The ramp rate of five degrees C per minute.
Scott I. Reed: Why?
Scott I. Reed: So now you can see all of the set points have gone to 50.
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: But until we enable the contactors.
Carlo Parisi: Yep.
Scott I. Reed: Power to start and I'll. I'll just wait another minute or two for.
Scott I. Reed: For Scott to come down from the top of the pcat.
Scott I. Reed: When they're running, it'll be bright green.
Scott I. Reed: Aaron was some of the yeah. And you know you're it's just been a.
Scott I. Reed: It's just been a while, obviously.
Scott I. Reed: Full recovery.
Scott I. Reed: Are the exploration there?
Scott I. Reed: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Ready to go?
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: So I changed set .50.
Scott I. Reed: So we just need to enable set to write to all.
Scott I. Reed: Yep, SP and RR set to all 55°.
Scott I. Reed: C per minute.
Scott I. Reed: Good.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I was.
Scott I. Reed: I was trying to follow through where you're at, so you're on.
Scott I. Reed: Let's see up right now, right here.
Scott I. Reed: Just need to enable it OK.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Here we go.
Scott I. Reed: Hey.
Scott I. Reed: For heater temperatures will start to go up.
Scott I. Reed: This is just the one heater and take the individual heater.
Scott I. Reed: But it's starting and they're changing so.
Scott I. Reed: On the M36.
Scott I. Reed: Set your power, you said.
Scott I. Reed: You on the right.
Scott I. Reed: Was a pretty quick jump.
Scott I. Reed: So let's ramp up five degrees per C per minute.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, it was 5° C per minute.
Scott I. Reed: But that's been taken like.
Scott I. Reed: It started at.
Scott I. Reed: 70.
Scott I. Reed: I didn't take it and I have best.
Scott I. Reed: It's like 30 seconds.
Carlo Parisi: Josh, can I see the flow meters?
Scott I. Reed: Basically it's.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, flow meters.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: There's the flow through the flow meters.
Scott I. Reed: That definitely went up more than five degrees C per minute.
Scott I. Reed: The first turning heater's on for the temperature like that.
Scott I. Reed: Isn't it gonna find a beep?
Scott I. Reed: You know, traffic like that.
Scott I. Reed: Well, yeah, but we have a a.
Scott I. Reed: We specified a ramp rate of five receipts per month, so it should be well, you know,
Scott I. Reed: I think that is there were settings in there probably already.
Scott I. Reed: So it starts wrapping from.
Scott I. Reed: Where it was at.
Scott I. Reed: Which means like 27.
Scott I. Reed: Well, wherever those stores were.
Scott I. Reed: Whatever the what, whatever was in the controllers.
Scott I. Reed: You check the ramp brace as part of the ETT row.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. In a previous release, but I think one of my concerns is that if
Scott I. Reed: we started with something in those controllers already.
Scott I. Reed: See what was written to.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: So it rants from wherever it is.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, it just ramps its output up.
Scott I. Reed: It ramps its output.
Scott I. Reed: The the new controller does.
Scott I. Reed: Well, it's just, you know, at 5° C.
Scott I. Reed: But I mean you can see if it has a wrap ready.
Scott I. Reed: If you inspect IT53C per minute.
Scott I. Reed: Yes.
Scott I. Reed: You're welcome and.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, that's good. Oh, OK.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, I'm glad to be here.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, that's very simple.
Scott I. Reed: You see how long that bit takes?
Scott I. Reed: When you see that.
Scott I. Reed: No problem, Janice.
Scott I. Reed: Promise sterling. He did so.
Scott I. Reed: You gonna get a new, get a lot of file.
Scott I. Reed: I think it's I'm like 50.
Scott I. Reed: I probably, I think what happened was he started from
Scott I. Reed: a non.
Scott I. Reed: So I let's say that we go from 50.
Scott I. Reed: Let's say we're going to have to restart this test.
Scott I. Reed: So let's go from what's the next step for.
Scott I. Reed: You to go to 100.
Scott I. Reed: But.
Scott I. Reed: Sorry, hold on.
Scott I. Reed: Now let it stabilize and then get the manpower value.
Scott I. Reed: Once it all flatlines.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, let's check with the mass flow that we we
Carlo Parisi: reach kind of steady state.
Carlo Parisi: I will look also at the lat temperature if possible.
Scott I. Reed: Are you concerned with the ramp rate at all?
Carlo Parisi: No, no, no.
Carlo Parisi: I'm just concerned about the steady state reaching a steady state.
Scott I. Reed: So just let it stay for now.
Scott I. Reed: At the step that we're in.
Carlo Parisi: Hmm.
Carlo Parisi: Can I?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, but.
Carlo Parisi: Can I see the the ladder temperature?
Carlo Parisi: See how it's what's going?
Scott I. Reed: Which one?
Scott I. Reed: I sorry, it's hard to hear.
Carlo Parisi: The lead temperature, Scott. Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: The lead.
Scott I. Reed: Thank you.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, you want to see?
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, this one. Yeah, this one. Thanks.
Scott I. Reed: This is what you want.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, that's gonna take some time because.
Carlo Parisi: The temperature up there are still 33. You see in the upper plenum.
Carlo Parisi: So the system.
Scott I. Reed: Well, that's that's why I'm wondering if we
Scott I. Reed: should just restart and go back down to Ambien.
Scott I. Reed: Gonna take a little look. Well, right now it wouldn't because we got
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, we can, I mean.
Scott I. Reed: weapons.
Scott I. Reed: Solid. It's it's up to P.
Scott I. Reed: So it wouldn't take very much to set the leaders.
Scott I. Reed: I think what has happened is you.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, I don't when you really want everything
Scott I. Reed: ready with these already on, because when you hit apply,
Scott I. Reed: if these aren't on the blue controller's already try.
Scott I. Reed: It's nothing.
Scott I. Reed: No response.
Scott I. Reed: It's it's still gonna continue to go.
Scott I. Reed: That wrapping's wrapping.
Scott I. Reed: OK. Does that make sense?
Scott I. Reed: 25° in 30 seconds it seems to be 5.
Scott I. Reed: Now, if you if the issue is that the heater
Scott I. Reed: has to be on before.
Scott I. Reed: That set on is applied.
Scott I. Reed: All you do.
Scott I. Reed: Is down just go.
Scott I. Reed: Just gonna start dropping. It's not.
Scott I. Reed: You're you're first against the ramp up or.
Scott I. Reed: Your first step is to ramp the 50 from wherever you are, right?
Scott I. Reed: So.
Scott I. Reed: You were down.
Scott I. Reed: You were down here around 26.7. Yeah, right.
Scott I. Reed: And you came in here. What did?
Scott I. Reed: What did you do?
Scott I. Reed: I said the base temperature to 50, the ramp rate to five.
Scott I. Reed: Reply. Then I went over to Maine and I unable to
Scott I. Reed: heat. How much time was between between all of
Scott I. Reed: us?
Scott I. Reed: No. Between when you went close the contact.
Scott I. Reed: I don't know like a man.
Scott I. Reed: Maybe not.
Scott I. Reed: What I'm what I'm saying.
Scott I. Reed: No, actually it was a little bit longer than
Scott I. Reed: that because I was waiting for you to come down.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. So I guess all I'm saying is that when
Scott I. Reed: you hit apply, you're telling the loop controllers to
Scott I. Reed: begin that when you're ramping it up.
Scott I. Reed: From.
Scott I. Reed: There's a lot that at this rate.
Scott I. Reed: You can tell it's rampant a certain rate up to that point.
Scott I. Reed: So what it's doing is it's changing at set point.
Scott I. Reed: That whole time, even though the contact is enclosed,
Scott I. Reed: so it's starting at wherever it was. Let's say that it was at 20.
Scott I. Reed: There and every every say you were wrapping at one, I guess 5° per minute.
Scott I. Reed: Every minute it's continuing to set like, so it's going to start out at 20 then.
Scott I. Reed: I'm gonna wait until it's 45 at the set . 1 minute later.
Scott I. Reed: Class is finishes.
Scott I. Reed: I think it's in a inner pointy, but it's just slowly increasing that cell
Scott I. Reed: point.
Scott I. Reed: Wells theory medical contacts aren't closed.
Scott I. Reed: He's trying to respond, saying, well, I'm putting heat to it and nothing's
Scott I. Reed: happened, so I'm putting more.
Scott I. Reed: I'm increasing my power out, freezing it out,
Scott I. Reed: increasing it out till I'm up at 100% power.
Scott I. Reed: So I'm trying to put SCR.
Scott I. Reed: Nothing's happening.
Scott I. Reed: Contacts are open.
Scott I. Reed: So when you close it, it takes it awhile to respond back to
Scott I. Reed: that because you wound up.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I agree with that.
Scott I. Reed: It's now at 100% output trying to reach.
Scott I. Reed: Property and it's gonna take awhile for that to unwind.
Scott I. Reed: So that's why I think when you saw that big jump.
Scott I. Reed: Power 'cause it was trying to catch up where it thought it should be that way.
Scott I. Reed: The sensors aren't really.
Scott I. Reed: What you're saying makes sense, but why the system would be set up to do
Scott I. Reed: that.
Scott I. Reed: That's all a system can be set up to do. The way the software directs you know. OK,
Scott I. Reed: well, then opening the contact and.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, like I said, the way you set everything off.
Scott I. Reed: It's not a good way for Lucas.
Scott I. Reed: So I think the answer is that he shouldn't start with a ramp rate.
Scott I. Reed: We should start with the current value, open the contactors and then go and
Scott I. Reed: change this.
Scott I. Reed: Well, set everything up and set it to like a
Scott I. Reed: low temp, right?
Scott I. Reed: Set it to like the current temperature or or less than it.
Scott I. Reed: That'd be great.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, let's do a hold of that 25.
Scott I. Reed: Still, say we want everybody to be at 25°.
Scott I. Reed: Well, the problem is this is going to try to
Scott I. Reed: ramp from wherever the console from a couple years down 25 to 1°C.
Scott I. Reed: Controlling your rampage down now, right?
Scott I. Reed: You got your soul thermocuffle stuff going on.
Scott I. Reed: But I think that's what you're seeing is that you had everything off,
Scott I. Reed: even though the dollar.
Scott I. Reed: So they just kept put out more and more and more power. When you turn it on.
Scott I. Reed: It just slammed the gas on.
Scott I. Reed: I mean it seems dumb to me that what?
Scott I. Reed: That the what controllers aren't smart enough to say don't start the timer until
Scott I. Reed: the contractors are closed.
Scott I. Reed: They don't know the contractors exist, but the contractors are in the watloads.
Scott I. Reed: No, the contractors are not.
Scott I. Reed: Contact me.
Scott I. Reed: Very seriously.
Scott I. Reed: Call dad.
Scott I. Reed: Just don't have anything to do so.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Let me know if you were gonna play with this thing forever.
Scott I. Reed: You would change the way your control system.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: So then.
Scott I. Reed: Based on what Carlos said, should we set it back to 50 and just wait
Scott I. Reed: for it all to flatline?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I think you should go back back to 50
Scott I. Reed: because that's where you're trying to get anyway.
Scott I. Reed: I'd just leave out the one.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. Let me give you a minute.
Scott I. Reed: Unless Carlo just agrees you're trying to get your control your control body.
Scott I. Reed: So now we're about 10° below, right?
Scott I. Reed: So it should take about two minutes.
Scott I. Reed: 10 minutes, right?
Scott I. Reed: If you're going to change it 1° every minute, sorry.
Scott I. Reed: So it should take about 10 minutes to get there.
Scott I. Reed: Unless Carlos specifically wants it at 5.
Carlo Parisi: No, it's OK.
Carlo Parisi: Let's let's reach this steady state AT50C.
Carlo Parisi: That's that's the important thing for me.
Scott I. Reed: There was a little bit of an inflection point close.
Scott I. Reed: I remember this like variation on the flow signals when we ran in the fall.
Scott I. Reed: That's that's what I what I was expecting.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I think it's because you were all wound
Scott I. Reed: up and all those theaters kicked on at 100% by the time you done.
Scott I. Reed: It was just that heat was blowing, OK?
Scott I. Reed: So bottom line is.
Scott I. Reed: We need, we need to have the heaters on.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, what?
Scott I. Reed: I what I would temperature is a plot.
Scott I. Reed: I would send the command at some point like if you start from like you don't
Scott I. Reed: know what state this thing is in cause have something in it.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. So you're out contacting your local.
Scott I. Reed: You want to send them a command so that they're staying about where they are,
Scott I. Reed: but the problem is, no matter what you do, they're they're trying to get there.
Scott I. Reed: If those contacts are called, you're gonna have a little bump.
Scott I. Reed: No matter what.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, but a little bump is one thing, right?
Scott I. Reed: You know that was, I mean, I said it somewhere below where you're
Scott I. Reed: trying to get and tell you get everything.
Scott I. Reed: Kind of stabilized because contact is causing the loop and then say OK,
Scott I. Reed: Now let's go.
Scott I. Reed: Once you're established, you should be fine.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, while we're waiting.
Scott I. Reed: Just so everyone knows, we made the pseudo executive decision to
Scott I. Reed: not have the camera on because there's literally nothing to look at.
Scott I. Reed: That you can't really see with the still photograph,
Scott I. Reed: but if anyone disagrees with that, let us know and we can turn it on.
Justin Johnson: Well, that's fine. Thanks buddy.
Carlo Parisi: Fine for me.
Justin Johnson: I'm gonna clip some screenshots.
Justin Johnson: Will you go back to the the Mac flow?
Justin Johnson: Thank you.
Justin Johnson: Very excited today, Carlo.
Justin Johnson: This is pretty exciting.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I already saw this in September.
Justin Johnson: I was going to say are you nervous? I'm nervous.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. No, no.
Justin Johnson: I'm like, freaking out nervous.
Carlo Parisi: I I'm more nervous when we are gonna run the tests at higher temperature with the
Carlo Parisi: coolant on I mean.
Carlo Parisi: That that, that's gonna be a total new territory to
Carlo Parisi: explore.
Scott I. Reed: We got this figured out.
Scott I. Reed: I'm gonna go grab.
Carlo Parisi: This kind of test I run also by myself few times when I was there and just
Carlo Parisi: playing with the heaters and see what was going on.
Carlo Parisi: And yeah, it's impressive.
Carlo Parisi: It works really well, so goes up in temperature very easily.
Justin Johnson: Awesome.
Scott I. Reed: So I was.
Scott I. Reed: Getting ready to walk out the door for lunch and I walked by the conference room.
Scott I. Reed: And I looked in there and I saw Pete Naraki.
Justin Johnson: Who's Pete?
Justin Johnson: I don't know, Pete.
Scott I. Reed: He lives a mile down the road from me and he used to be the manager of my group
Scott I. Reed: before I started at it MFC.
Carlo Parisi: Oh.
Justin Johnson: What's he doing there?
Scott I. Reed: Oh, I I don't know exactly what it is he's
Scott I. Reed: doing.
Justin Johnson: That's kind of funny small world.
Scott I. Reed: It is funny, yeah.
Justin Johnson: Love it.
Scott I. Reed: No, I've never been.
Justin Johnson: I gotta run on a we gotta run on there and I'll come back in a couple hours,
Justin Johnson: guys.
Scott I. Reed: Ki met him for the first time.
Scott I. Reed: So so Carlo, are you wanting all of these to basically
Scott I. Reed: level out and be together within a certain amount of each other or is it
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. Well, I I don't think it's.
Scott I. Reed: more about?
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I don't think it's possible at such low
Carlo Parisi: mass flow.
Carlo Parisi: No, what I want to see is that we reach a
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: kind of uniform temperature in the whole system,
Carlo Parisi: including upper plan and also the the LAT based mode.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, because right now they are 36 there, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: And so we'll be looking.
Scott I. Reed: We'd be looking at these all being at 50.
Scott I. Reed: And and whichever which other ones do you want to see?
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Which ones are you looking at that have to all be at the same?
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, more or less. Yeah, that they reach.
Scott I. Reed: Part.
Carlo Parisi: I don't think they are gonna never reach 50 because there are some thermal
Scott I. Reed: Thank you for.
Carlo Parisi: dispersion up there.
Scott I. Reed: Right.
Carlo Parisi: But yeah, something something close.
Carlo Parisi: So that and and that would basically results in a significant drop of the mass
Carlo Parisi: flow because you don't have any more the driving force right because everything is
Carlo Parisi: reaching a thermal equilibrium.
Carlo Parisi: So this test could take some time.
Carlo Parisi: I I can see it.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, and since it does, I'd I'd like to make sure that before we
Scott I. Reed: move on for that, you're happy with where we are, right?
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Those are the.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I I would look at like this last time we
Scott I. Reed: This is the only thing you.
Carlo Parisi: we waited a a short time.
Carlo Parisi: But yeah, I would.
Carlo Parisi: I would start to to change the ramp rate, one that reach probably 45.
Carlo Parisi: I don't.
Carlo Parisi: Depends also how, how how much time it takes.
Carlo Parisi: Let me see.
Carlo Parisi: The down camera is still at 28.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. So.
Carlo Parisi: Definitely.
Carlo Parisi: I have some mass flow.
Carlo Parisi: Upper Plano meets reaching 41.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, you guys think that now?
Carlo Parisi: Now the system is heating.
Carlo Parisi: Also, all the structure so there is a lot of
Carlo Parisi: energy that is going to be dumped in the.
Carlo Parisi: In the isolation materials, and yeah, all those other parts that are called.
Scott I. Reed: But we we can just wait until you you are satisfied.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Is this the screen you want to be on?
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, between this screen and the other one
Carlo Parisi: with the must flow.
Carlo Parisi: That, that those are the two that I like.
Carlo Parisi: There's no way that we can put both screen on the same.
Scott I. Reed: No, but I can go back and forth between them
Carlo Parisi: No. OK.
Scott I. Reed: as often as you like.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, yeah, OK, that works.
Scott I. Reed: So what are the temperatures exactly that we want to have flatline?
Scott I. Reed: He's looking for Carlos, looking for these to kind of stabilize
Scott I. Reed: near the temperature that we've set. Oh, near the tent that we've set, right.
Scott I. Reed: Isn't that right? You want those?
Scott I. Reed: Ihx Thermo Coubles to be getting close to 50.
Carlo Parisi: Correct.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, correct.
Scott I. Reed: And it's never really going to always lose some.
Scott I. Reed: So that's why I'm saying. I'll wait till he tells me.
Scott I. Reed: When he's like. Yeah, I feel like we stabilize good enough.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: We have a crap here.
Scott I. Reed: We don't.
Scott I. Reed: That's not the question I asked.
Scott I. Reed: There's there's no requirement for a graphic to be helpful to,
Scott I. Reed: and This is why you do this kind of thing.
Scott I. Reed: So what do people really know, right?
Scott I. Reed: So quite lots of things like those numbers, the flatline.
Scott I. Reed: That's like the goal.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, you want to graph of those and the graph
Scott I. Reed: of the other thing is.
Scott I. Reed: Or you can look at them and talk like I'm not disagreeing with you.
Scott I. Reed: I'm just.
Scott I. Reed: In a perfect world.
Carlo Parisi: So we start.
Carlo Parisi: 10 minutes ago, right.
Carlo Parisi: So yeah, I would say that's checking out for an
Carlo Parisi: hour where we are at.
Scott I. Reed: What?
Scott I. Reed: Hey I what?
Scott I. Reed: Oh, I need to.
Scott I. Reed: Well, all of these things were said by you,
Scott I. Reed: Scott. According to the transcripts.
Scott I. Reed: If you look back through a staff week.
Scott I. Reed: Uh, huh. Pretty funny.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, we can always.
Scott I. Reed: Do this.
Scott I. Reed: Thank you.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, a lot is going to be waiting.
Scott I. Reed: There's a huge thermal mass.
Scott I. Reed: That we're dealing with.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I agree.
Carlo Parisi: That's why I want to be sure that we are, as I mean, at least as close as possible,
Carlo Parisi: to a steady state.
Carlo Parisi: I see the temperature in the upper plenum is going up.
Carlo Parisi: Slowly, very slowly, but I can see the trend.
Scott I. Reed: I I think it's be important that we have you in these tests,
Scott I. Reed: at least for the first while to make sure that we're getting what you want.
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: Otherwise we'll just redo them and sit around again.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, since today we are just gonna do these
Carlo Parisi: three tasks, I would say, yeah, let's wait.
Carlo Parisi: As I said, 30 minutes. See where we are and then eventually we
Scott I. Reed: Also be there.
Scott I. Reed: I know.
Carlo Parisi: can move to the next.
Scott I. Reed: Yes, OK. Sounds great.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I can see for example from this screen.
Carlo Parisi: It's very useful because you can check also the mass flow down there actually.
Scott I. Reed: Applicant.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: That's when.
Scott I. Reed: The four barrels of five loading or something.
Scott I. Reed: See.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, 'cause, you're looking at the kilograms per
Scott I. Reed: second down there.
Carlo Parisi: Right. Yeah, there is that.
Carlo Parisi: There is also the inlet temperature.
Carlo Parisi: I can see the for example the the heat losses on the down camera because 31.
Scott I. Reed: Except for like 12 CLL like you know.
Scott I. Reed: See how close it is 12.
Carlo Parisi: And that number 12 at 3028.
Carlo Parisi: The number 13, something like that.
Carlo Parisi: So yeah, makes sense.
Carlo Parisi: So this is what I we would expect.
Carlo Parisi: But yeah, I I just like to give a bit more time to
Carlo Parisi: the lab business since it's a big mass, as Josh was saying to heat up and also to
Carlo Parisi: give sometimes to the structure, to the pipes and.
Carlo Parisi: Insulation to to heat up.
Carlo Parisi: Scott, Remember Me?
Carlo Parisi: This the Thermo couple in the in the Ihx have been reinstalled.
Scott I. Reed: The thermocouples in the Ihx have been checked and verified that they are.
Scott I. Reed: The correct ones.
Scott I. Reed: We did find several that were incorrect and we corrected those.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Do we have to account for the outside?
Carlo Parisi: Oh, OK.
Scott I. Reed: Are you seeing something that?
Carlo Parisi: No, no, no.
Scott I. Reed: Doesn't make sense to you.
Carlo Parisi: I I I was just wondering.
Carlo Parisi: Now I don't remember.
Scott I. Reed: If this is not your dog, oh, now listen. He should've told you off the ****.
Carlo Parisi: I don't have also the chart for the position the thermocouple,
Carlo Parisi: but I see that there is some difference.
Carlo Parisi: For example, one is at 41, the other 139, the other one at 35 S makes sense.
Scott I. Reed: It just feels right.
Scott I. Reed: Like.
Scott I. Reed: We are being.
Carlo Parisi: Seems that there is a kind of a stratification there.
Scott I. Reed: One of those things.
Scott I. Reed: You're 1/4.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. Let me get you.
Scott I. Reed: What's the plan for tomorrow?
Scott I. Reed: Well, we're running a test right now.
Scott I. Reed: Well, I told him.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, it's just basically we're just waiting
Scott I. Reed: for things to.
Scott I. Reed: Guys are welcome again.
Scott I. Reed: Thank you.
Scott I. Reed: So basically said you weren't feeling great, so.
Scott I. Reed: I just called her so we'll get to aggregate.
Scott I. Reed: Try to stay away.
Scott I. Reed: If you want Carlo.
Scott I. Reed: I can forward you an e-mail that that has the positions of those.
Scott I. Reed: If that helps you.
Scott I. Reed: Actually I can just drop it in the chat.
Scott I. Reed: I can be here about.
Scott I. Reed: So take it back down to 50.
Scott I. Reed: Wait, no, hold on.
Scott I. Reed: Sorry.
Scott I. Reed: Go to 1.
Scott I. Reed: 8 some reason it doesn't like me doing it in the chat.
Scott I. Reed: Maybe because I'm recording or something, I don't know.
Scott I. Reed: What do you do if you get a badly?
Scott I. Reed: Stop.
Scott I. Reed: I'll stop because, well, basically the tests were playing on
Scott I. Reed: running tomorrow. I'm gonna.
Scott I. Reed: I'm gonna charge a pull up tomorrow.
Scott I. Reed: Set the temperature to 180.
Scott I. Reed: See how hard we can get it.
Scott I. Reed: Where none of the pools are based on the country.
Scott I. Reed: So thankfully we did it in September.
Scott I. Reed: Find out that banks.
Scott I. Reed: And then turn on one of the pooling booth.
Scott I. Reed: So I just sent you an e-mail with those positions Kylo, but it's flat line.
Scott I. Reed: Let it take three and then add another four days.
Scott I. Reed: Send send off.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what this all said.
Scott I. Reed: But that's I just ran in a couple days ago.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, but that that's basically the test that
Scott I. Reed: we're if we run them, get those done tomorrow, that would be.
Scott I. Reed: First figure is going to pop if I do come off, it'll be a little bit.
Scott I. Reed: And I believe when I'm going into my sober.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Thank you. That sounds good.
Scott I. Reed: So a lot of you don't have to be leaving to get back to.
Scott I. Reed: Get the temperature and then to platform.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, but it's for Carlos calculations.
Scott I. Reed: Everything could be like rock solid-state state, so we even as it's like honing in.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: And theoretically those times should decrease at higher temperatures,
Scott I. Reed: you've got more energy inputs.
Scott I. Reed: We're going to find.
Scott I. Reed: Like just before.
Scott I. Reed: Basic.
Scott I. Reed: You gotta you gotta pretty much thank me. Yeah, kind of.
Scott I. Reed: How did I work though?
Scott I. Reed: Are you still able to hear me, Carlo?
Carlo Parisi: Scott. Yeah, I can.
Carlo Parisi: I can hear you.
Carlo Parisi: I'm leaving it just for 20 minutes for lunch and going.
Carlo Parisi: I will come back at 12:30.
Carlo Parisi: Log our time. Is it OK? OK.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. So you want us to just leave this as it
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: is while you do that?
Carlo Parisi: Leave like it is we say half an hour.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: So by 12:30 idle time, then we can we can see where we are and
Carlo Parisi: then eventually we can increase the the temperature.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: I'll wait for you to come back.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Thank you very much.
Scott I. Reed: Ben, can you hear us?
Scott I. Reed: At 2:46.
Scott I. Reed: Labview crashed and we started it up again at 246. The new data file.
Scott I. Reed: 2502281447 dot ldm.
Scott I. Reed: LV.
Scott I. Reed: Hey, Carlo.
Scott I. Reed: We had a little bump at 2:46 where the Labview crashed.
Scott I. Reed: We turned it back on, basically.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: You maybe lost a minute worth of data so.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, that's OK.
Carlo Parisi: Can I just have a look at the lab temperature before we move forward?
Scott I. Reed: The what temperature?
Carlo Parisi: The lad.
Carlo Parisi: The lad bismuth, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: The lead.
Carlo Parisi: The yeah. Don't cover.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Well, they reach 50 up there, OK.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, but one of them.
Scott I. Reed: I don't know if you want to see other down comers.
Carlo Parisi: I see the yeah.
Carlo Parisi: It's 55 in the upper planner.
Scott I. Reed: Yep. And that's pretty consistent.
Carlo Parisi: That's.
Carlo Parisi: Oh, because, yeah, it's 15. The in the core. But yeah,
Carlo Parisi: you have some some extra, OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. No, I think we are good.
Carlo Parisi: I think we can.
Carlo Parisi: We can move forward now, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Well, there is still a little bit of a a slope
Scott I. Reed: to the flow.
Carlo Parisi: Hmm.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Is that is that OK or?
Carlo Parisi: I think it's OK.
Carlo Parisi: I think it's very, very small, right? It's dropping.
Carlo Parisi: Well, because eventually the what should happen
Carlo Parisi: is that that that flow goes to 0. So almost.
Carlo Parisi: I mean, if we we reach some sort of thermal
Carlo Parisi: equilibrium.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, but I I don't how long it's gonna take.
Carlo Parisi: I mean, we can wait also a little bit more if we
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: can.
Carlo Parisi: Can you go back to the? Yeah, the.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. Our our total heater power is around 900
Scott I. Reed: now.
Scott I. Reed: I know the target. We kind of set for this condition was 700.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: So that's, you know, it's certainly getting there and keep in
Scott I. Reed: mind that your total heater power has quite a bit of a punch factor when you're
Scott I. Reed: down that low.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, yeah, I remember you told me also in September.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. So it says OK, so 5050.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, there is something at 48 probably at the
Carlo Parisi: bottom maybe.
Scott I. Reed: Do you have to recall which 111 is?
Scott I. Reed: So you're on downtown?
Scott I. Reed: 11 so 11 is that position 1. So it's the one that spur us down.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. The ones the whole way at the bottom.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, SE TE011 is at the bottom of your IHS.
Scott I. Reed: Down in the very lower end of the two.
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: Four and five are up at the top.
Scott I. Reed: 2:00 and 3:00.
Scott I. Reed: Are basically right at the the bottom of the bowl.
Scott I. Reed: Six is about halfway down and then 11 is the whole way at the bottom.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, makes sense.
Carlo Parisi: It is 48.
Carlo Parisi: Hmm.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I I don't know.
Carlo Parisi: We want to wait another half an hour.
Carlo Parisi: I don't know. That's the.
Carlo Parisi: Could be an AI mean if we want to really be prudent with the the.
Carlo Parisi: The mass flow.
Carlo Parisi: Can can we go back to the?
Scott I. Reed: So which one the main?
Carlo Parisi: The mass flow, yeah, the main.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: You want me to shut that door?
Scott I. Reed: Again, don't you?
Scott I. Reed: I don't know if that.
Scott I. Reed: 'S much of a difference.
Scott I. Reed: Sometimes it's up there. I don't think so.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, if we had, we had the garage door open too,
Carlo Parisi: Hmm.
Scott I. Reed: and the HR US going. Yes, bud.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Sure, a little more.
Carlo Parisi: But yeah, it's it's costing down, but it's gonna be really slow.
Carlo Parisi: I I mean, I'm just thinking that since that this
Carlo Parisi: low mass flow rate, the uncertainty is also.
Carlo Parisi: Bit larger.
Carlo Parisi: We may want to go to and also for the power.
Scott I. Reed: Yes.
Carlo Parisi: I mean, I think probably it's better to go to 100.
Carlo Parisi: I mean to next to the next step and try to reach a stabilization there.
Carlo Parisi: We will have atleast.
Scott I. Reed: We'll we'll report it whenever you want to.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: There is still a slight downward slope on those low rates.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I can see.
Carlo Parisi: I can see. Yeah. OK.
Carlo Parisi: Let's do like this.
Carlo Parisi: Let's wait another half an hour and then at 1:30,
Carlo Parisi: my time 3:30 your time we move to to 1100.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: I.
Carlo Parisi: I I'm here working online and so, yeah. Anything. You just send me a message?
Scott I. Reed: OK, you can always just tell us when you're
Scott I. Reed: ready as well.
Carlo Parisi: So let's say by 1:30 my time.
Carlo Parisi: 3:30 your time.
Carlo Parisi: But yeah, I'm here working.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. Let me ask these guys if any if how late
Scott I. Reed: they're planning on going.
Scott I. Reed: Hey, it's Harlow.
Carlo Parisi: Yep.
Scott I. Reed: So we were just talking.
Scott I. Reed: The you know this place closes at 4:30.
Carlo Parisi: Oh, I see.
Scott I. Reed: Josh has to be gone by 4.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: So probably wonders if we ought to just let this be for today.
Scott I. Reed: So this is, you know, just keep recording data tomorrow morning
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: when we come in, it'll have been sitting like this all
Scott I. Reed: night long trying to maintain 50. You'll have really steady numbers.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Are you around tomorrow?
Carlo Parisi: I'm not, but I I mean, in sense I it's Friday,
Carlo Parisi: Saturday so but yeah. If needed I can.
Carlo Parisi: I can log in and at what time you guys were planning to restart the test?
Scott I. Reed: Well, that's that's what I'm trying to figure
Scott I. Reed: out is, I mean, either we just let this sit until Monday.
Carlo Parisi: Hmm.
Scott I. Reed: Or.
Scott I. Reed: We run tomorrow. The guys will be in, I think tomorrow.
Scott I. Reed: At 6:30, that's when we've been starting.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. And yeah, if tomorrow, Scott, you want to just tomorrow morning or
Carlo Parisi: after that is 7 at 50 you go to second step it's 100.
Carlo Parisi: And then you just let the system staying there for some time, say few hours.
Carlo Parisi: That should be OK.
Carlo Parisi: Right. So if you start at 6:30 tomorrow morning,
Carlo Parisi: 7 whatever.
Carlo Parisi: I I'm just checking here. The plan plan is to go to.
Carlo Parisi: Think start up.
Scott I. Reed: Good.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: 113.
Scott I. Reed: Ready.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: There is 180 OK.
Scott I. Reed: Sounds like they'll be here till 4:30.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, we're trying to figure out like.
Carlo Parisi: Or 30 so another hour.
Carlo Parisi: So we have another hour, OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I was just thinking because the other the
Carlo Parisi: other option could be that we start today the ramp we go to 100 and you keep all
Carlo Parisi: the system at 100 tonight you know.
Carlo Parisi: Would that be possible?
Scott I. Reed: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: Josh he says the other option would be to start the ramp to 100 and then let it
Scott I. Reed: just sit at 100 tonight.
Scott I. Reed: Is that possible?
Scott I. Reed: It's possible.
Scott I. Reed: I'm not sure how.
Scott I. Reed: Likely it is that Labview won't crash overnight and you'll lose a big chunk of
Scott I. Reed: data.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: I would say that would be the biggest.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. The biggest concern, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Concern.
Scott I. Reed: But as far as setting it to 100 and leading it overnight that that would be
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: fine.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Well, yeah, let's do like this, since there is this risk of losing data.
Carlo Parisi: Let's keep at 50 for now and then tomorrow morning.
Carlo Parisi: I mean, if you guys run to 100 and then again
Carlo Parisi: check tomorrow morning, say 10:00 AM your time 8:00 AM my time.
Carlo Parisi: Where we are.
Carlo Parisi: And yeah, and and then we decide to move forward.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: So we're gonna leave it how it is tonight.
Carlo Parisi: That.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: When I get in tomorrow morning.
Scott I. Reed: We're gonna do the ramp to 100.
Scott I. Reed: Let's see where is the ramp to 100 at?
Carlo Parisi: It's the 13.13.
Carlo Parisi: I think it's 13.1.
Scott I. Reed: Since here.
Scott I. Reed: Wanna stick these and oh fix this.
Scott I. Reed: Put my hand up.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, Paris.
Scott I. Reed: So this stuff here.
Scott I. Reed: But we haven't done this yet.
Scott I. Reed: No.
Scott I. Reed: Can we do that in the morning?
Scott I. Reed: So there's a there's a step at 12 point 6. 7 where we record the minimum power.
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: For the heaters.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, and it's still dropping, I think, yeah, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Can you record that morning?
Scott I. Reed: Which I think right now you're probably there 'cause you're at around 700.
Scott I. Reed: You're dropping even into 600, so.
Carlo Parisi: Oh, OK.
Scott I. Reed: Carlo, do you? Do you recall where that number came from
Scott I. Reed: that 700 watts?
Carlo Parisi: No, I'm not sure if it's something that you
Carlo Parisi: got. Josh, when you did some preliminary testing.
Carlo Parisi: Last last year.
Carlo Parisi: I.
Scott I. Reed: I don't think. I don't think so.
Carlo Parisi: I I it's not coming from me unless unless we.
Carlo Parisi: Unless we we found out that last time when I was there in September and then
Scott I. Reed: I.
Carlo Parisi: yeah.
Carlo Parisi: Because I remember we ran some of these tests. Yeah, OK. Yeah, probably.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: I I think that number goes back farther than that.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: That that was I was thinking because I think you run some of those tests before
Carlo Parisi: installing the sterling.
Carlo Parisi: And yeah, so it's probably did, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Yes.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, that that's true.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, right now it seems that it's actually
Carlo Parisi: stabilizing I'm seeing.
Carlo Parisi: That the slope is really minimum.
Carlo Parisi: And yeah, the power is 66680. Something like that, yeah.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, we, we we can tomorrow morning when you guys
Carlo Parisi: come to the to there to see I just run the test 100.
Carlo Parisi: And yeah, you can record the power tomorrow morning.
Carlo Parisi: I mean, I don't think it's gonna change a lot
Carlo Parisi: from tonight.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: So if we run that test tomorrow.
Scott I. Reed: 100° C which is basically a wrap.
Carlo Parisi: Yep. And then I think you can run also the
Carlo Parisi: next one. I think that is at 180, right?
Scott I. Reed: Yep.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, yeah.
Carlo Parisi: See tomorrow run these two tests. So so that we got two good steady state.
Scott I. Reed: And then that's when the coolant comes in after that.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, but but with the coolant, I think we, we are gonna do that Monday,
Carlo Parisi: right?
Scott I. Reed: But we can put the coolant in tomorrow.
Carlo Parisi: Oh, already tomorrow, OK.
Scott I. Reed: After those tests.
Scott I. Reed: After those tests are done.
Carlo Parisi: Ah, OK, OK.
Scott I. Reed: Well Camry, is there any issue with that stuff being
Scott I. Reed: 'cause you just put it in the hru?
Scott I. Reed: S and then basically. Then they turn the pump on circulated,
Carlo Parisi: Hmm.
Scott I. Reed: yeah.
Carlo Parisi: So they they they start to circulate with and then so it works.
Scott I. Reed: And you can check your account.
Carlo Parisi: Sorry, Josh, I'm I'm a bit.
Carlo Parisi: Confused. So you you bring the system to 180 and
Carlo Parisi: then you add the coolant to the to the I checks.
Scott I. Reed: After we we bring it up to 180 for Test 3.
Scott I. Reed: Then we let it cool below 100 and then add the coolant.
Carlo Parisi: Ah, OK, OK.
Carlo Parisi: So you you let. Yeah, OK. OK.
Scott I. Reed: That way we're not adding the coolant to a hot ihx.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, that makes sense.
Carlo Parisi: OK. Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: All right. I think that that that's good.
Scott I. Reed: So well.
Carlo Parisi: So tomorrow you guys are there and you can check that lab view doesn't crash,
Carlo Parisi: so we don't lose all the data.
Carlo Parisi: So that's my biggest concern.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, and and I should be able to call you
Scott I. Reed: tomorrow. Basically when I get to 100 and let you
Scott I. Reed: look at it and then call you when we get to 180 and let you look at it.
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Let me I think I'm pretty sure I have your number in my phone.
Scott I. Reed: It might be.
Scott I. Reed: Make sure here.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, yeah, you you should have it.
Scott I. Reed: I know when we were out here, I thought we.
Carlo Parisi: And I'm gonna be at home tomorrow so I can.
Carlo Parisi: I can.
Carlo Parisi: I have my laptop so again I can log in and check also the result online.
Carlo Parisi: Scott.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. So we'll, we'll do the same thing tomorrow with the
Carlo Parisi: Yep.
Scott I. Reed: teams.
Scott I. Reed: I'll set something up that way, probably just extend this one or
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: something, so I'll tell those guys to add the
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: cooling first thing.
Scott I. Reed: 'Cause, that was the.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: See.
Scott I. Reed: Your your phone number ends in 0741.
Carlo Parisi: Correct.
Scott I. Reed: OK, alright.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. And I have your I think your this one.
Carlo Parisi: Got it's ending in 3961, right?
Scott I. Reed: Yep, Yep, that's right.
Carlo Parisi: Correct. OK.
Carlo Parisi: Okey dokey. OK.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Hey, Tom.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: Hello, Scott.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: How are you?
Scott I. Reed: Oh, very good so far.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: Good, good, good to hear.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: Everything's going well.
Scott I. Reed: We've just been working through the first well. Yeah, so far, I think so.
Scott I. Reed: We've been just working through the very first part of the test and ramping up to
Scott I. Reed: 50° and holding there. And we're gonna just let that run
Scott I. Reed: overnight.
Scott I. Reed: And then tomorrow we'll do the next two steps and then stop there and put the
Scott I. Reed: coolant in.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: OK. Are you guys?
Scott I. Reed: And then we'll resume Monday, so.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: I joined a little bit or after the conversation started I'd see the e-mail
Tom M. Pfeiffer: traffic.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: Earlier in the week regarding the level that LBEI.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: Guess we've got that solved and that's what we're talking about.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: When we're gonna put that lbe in there.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. So the the direction that Carlo had given
Scott I. Reed: was that if we were within an inch of all the levels,
Scott I. Reed: if they're all within an inch of each other, that that was acceptable.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: And so we went ahead and we measured those.
Scott I. Reed: They were all basically within about a 3/4 of an inch of each other,
Scott I. Reed: so we didn't do anything to the lead levels.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: I assume that gets the all the turns of the coils submerged in.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: This difference is just on the end of the out tubes.
Scott I. Reed: Well, I I can't tell how much of the heater
Scott I. Reed: coils are submerged because you can't tell until you put them in there.
Scott I. Reed: And then you can't it.
Scott I. Reed: Also vary slightly depending upon the lbe temperature because of the thermal
Scott I. Reed: expansion.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: Sure. I just assume that you know, the goal here is to get all the coils
Tom M. Pfeiffer: submerged, right?
Tom M. Pfeiffer: So you get your.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: Maximize your your heat transfer.
Scott I. Reed: We just based it off of Carlo's direction.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Carlo Parisi: So we want to be sure that we don't leave some of the coils on.
Carlo Parisi: But yeah, there is no way to verify where the level
Carlo Parisi: is when everything is out because it's it's close to the system.
Carlo Parisi: But yeah, I think if it is something like that,
Carlo Parisi: it's that's not gonna gonna change on anything.
Carlo Parisi: Significantly.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, we I don't know.
Scott I. Reed: Anyway to verify it?
Scott I. Reed: I mean if that is something that we needed to verify for sure,
Scott I. Reed: that should have been done a week ago, well,
Scott I. Reed: this would be the time to do it because you don't have cooling in it.
Scott I. Reed: You don't hook them and pull them out and see if they were all wedded.
Scott I. Reed: Well, you haven't got up in temperature enough,
Scott I. Reed: so I know you're not going to be any different than you were when I sent you
Scott I. Reed: those pictures.
Scott I. Reed: Well, you'd have to heat it up to get them out.
Scott I. Reed: Right.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. Tomorrow, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: And they're attached to the lid.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, the, I mean that's a that would be a pretty
Scott I. Reed: significant thing if that's what we wanted to do because.
Scott I. Reed: Well, that's why we asked Carlo. Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I think it's fine.
Scott I. Reed: Hey.
Carlo Parisi: I mean, that's the the other issue was how much
Carlo Parisi: of that?
Carlo Parisi: Led was attached on the what was solidified? That was on the coils.
Carlo Parisi: I mean, it was really.
Carlo Parisi: No matter what, we are gonna have some uncertainty that
Carlo Parisi: what I I I meant. So now if the level is half a inch
Carlo Parisi: smaller.
Carlo Parisi: I don't.
Carlo Parisi: It's gonna. I'm gonna.
Carlo Parisi: Gonna impact?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I mean I I all I can say is that the
Scott I. Reed: level in those IH XS is all within an inch.
Scott I. Reed: Of the other levels in each of them, they're all within each of each other.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: One other I guess.
Scott I. Reed: Complexity to add into the year is that those coils were hand bent.
Scott I. Reed: That's not really a shape that you can order from the factory, obviously, so.
Carlo Parisi: Right.
Scott I. Reed: You know the actual depth of the coils below the lid.
Scott I. Reed: On the individual coil loops had a little bit of variability as well.
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: Not. Not a lot, but.
Carlo Parisi: All right.
Scott I. Reed: But there was some.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: The guy that Fenom did a far better job than I could ever do.
Scott I. Reed: It's down around 600.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, it seems that that has reached a nice
Carlo Parisi: steady state.
Carlo Parisi: Now it's. Yeah, one 15315 your time.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I think it's good.
Scott I. Reed: Bing.
Scott I. Reed: You think you can get to 100?
Scott I. Reed: Well, then we said maintain equilibrium for 30
Scott I. Reed: minutes.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I think now it's probably an hour since
Carlo Parisi: we reached the 50C.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, we can wait another 15 minutes. But as we said,
Carlo Parisi: we we don't want to run the the the 101 hundred Celsius task tonight because.
Carlo Parisi: Then we are not sure if lab lab view is gonna crash so.
Carlo Parisi: No, but yeah, that's nice.
Carlo Parisi: I like how how it's looks quite stable now and can.
Carlo Parisi: Can you please go to the heat exchanger tab?
Carlo Parisi: So I can check the LB temperature.
Carlo Parisi: Sorry the other one, the one with.
Carlo Parisi: The one with the LBS probably don't.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, this one don't come.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, seems quite quite uniform now. I mean,
Carlo Parisi: there is few degrees of differences, but yeah.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. 4040. OK, yeah, that works.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. I I I don't know. Tomorrow since we are running this test
Carlo Parisi: at 100 ATC.
Carlo Parisi: So the lads should be melted.
Carlo Parisi: I don't if tomorrow we want to do a check of the level of the LB level and see if
Carlo Parisi: there is a big discrepancy.
Scott I. Reed: It it won't.
Scott I. Reed: It wouldn't be any different than it was when we checked it the other day.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Oh OK, because you checked with also the coils
Carlo Parisi: installed, right?
Scott I. Reed: No, we we couldn't check it with the coils
Scott I. Reed: installed.
Scott I. Reed: We, but we had to heat it up to pull the
Scott I. Reed: coils.
Carlo Parisi: Oh, OK, OK.
Scott I. Reed: So we pulled it.
Scott I. Reed: We heated up.
Scott I. Reed: We pulled the coils.
Scott I. Reed: We laid it, waited till it cooled off.
Scott I. Reed: It was solid.
Carlo Parisi: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: And then we measured it when it was solid and we compared all the levels against
Scott I. Reed: each other.
Carlo Parisi: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: And then we obviously had to heat it back up to get the coils back in there again.
Carlo Parisi: So.
Scott I. Reed: So if you pull it, you'll still be at the same level you
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: were.
Carlo Parisi: OK. But I mean, if tomorrow you melt the I'll be the
Carlo Parisi: coils are already there, right?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, they're the coils are in right now.
Carlo Parisi: OK, so you eventually you can check.
Carlo Parisi: With the coils where the level is right tomorrow when everything is melted,
Carlo Parisi: then just do a visual check to see if there is.
Carlo Parisi: I mean a coil that is uncovered or something like that.
Carlo Parisi: Or there is something weird I don't know because you you did the verification
Carlo Parisi: without the coils.
Carlo Parisi: But remember, there was some on the coils, some frozen lead.
Carlo Parisi: So I guess when you put then the the coil back there was this extra layer that was
Carlo Parisi: added to the to the system?
Scott I. Reed: A little bit.
Carlo Parisi: I don't think it's gonna be a lot, but yeah, just just for the sake. Yeah,
Scott I. Reed: No, it's very, very minor.
Carlo Parisi: yeah.
Scott I. Reed: And you'll have the same. I mean you'll have the same lead.
Scott I. Reed: Stick it to it. If we pull the clay out again.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, correct.
Scott I. Reed: Unless you take a torch to them and let them drip dry, yeah.
Carlo Parisi: Oh, OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: No, I mean for me it's OK also because the,
Carlo Parisi: I mean we shouldn't reach boiling in this test, this kind of test so.
Carlo Parisi: Or maybe we are gonna reach, but we'll see. So.
Scott I. Reed: Where the I guess the concern I have with, if we aren't satisfied with the lead
Scott I. Reed: level is that.
Scott I. Reed: It's it's a bit of work once you put coolant in it to take the coolant back
Scott I. Reed: out and then pull those.
Carlo Parisi: Hmm.
Scott I. Reed: Heat exchangers out again.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Well, it's a bit of work regardless, but it's a bit more work once the cooling.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Collector bunch of data and then we're like, well,
Scott I. Reed: we're unsure about the levels are, but my understanding is that we thought
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: the levels were OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, I I think so, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: It'll probably take at least four or five days for.
Scott I. Reed: New lbe ingots to get here as well. If we order more.
Carlo Parisi: Uh huh. Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. So I I suspect you're probably best doing
Carlo Parisi: Let.
Scott I. Reed: your test and then if you need to do something else, we can deal with it.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, let's run the test.
Carlo Parisi: So if there is some something big, we're gonna see the differences in the
Carlo Parisi: exchange, right?
Carlo Parisi: Because we're gonna see one ihx behaving differently from the other one, so.
Scott I. Reed: And how how does that?
Scott I. Reed: Well, I guess we'll get to that when we get to
Scott I. Reed: it.
Scott I. Reed: But how does how does the efficiency of the Ihxs work when you're basically
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: adjusting how much logo is thrown based on those valves you just set them a same
Scott I. Reed: number of turns or something.
Scott I. Reed: Which valves?
Scott I. Reed: The ones that are on the outlets of the IHS.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, those vows.
Scott I. Reed: Well, that was basically saying if if we wanted
Scott I. Reed: to.
Scott I. Reed: When we put this together, we didn't know exactly what tests Carlo
Scott I. Reed: was going to run, so that was if we wanted the possibility
Scott I. Reed: of what happens if one of the coils gets clogged, how does that affect the flow?
Scott I. Reed: Obviously that individual coil will get go to nothing,
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: but will the other ones ramp up or will or will it just be?
Scott I. Reed: The 25% less or what?
Scott I. Reed: I didn't know if that was a test that wanted that Carlo wouldn't have wanted to
Scott I. Reed: have run, so we put it in in case.
Scott I. Reed: So basically when we run the unit exchanges, the valves will be 100% open.
Scott I. Reed: That's the intent, unless.
Scott I. Reed: Somebody says otherwise. OK, that makes sense.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: I don't think that's a test currently here, but.
Scott I. Reed: We're doing all this figured.
Scott I. Reed: You know what? Let's try and.
Scott I. Reed: Build the bridges before we even have to get to them.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: To cross them.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, my concern with boring Josh is just that.
Carlo Parisi: It's if it start, it's gonna let this the primary
Carlo Parisi: temperature drop.
Carlo Parisi: Quite a bit, because you're gonna have a higher heat
Carlo Parisi: transfer coefficient.
Carlo Parisi: And.
Carlo Parisi: Then then there is also the risk that you could have some boiling instability in
Carlo Parisi: your in those coils. So start to have some flaws.
Carlo Parisi: That's quite typical. It can happen.
Carlo Parisi: It's not sure that it's gonna happen.
Carlo Parisi: I'm just saying this is one of the possibilities that you can have.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: We'll leave those open unless you tell us otherwise.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah. OK.
Carlo Parisi: So I guess we can adjourn tomorrow, right?
Carlo Parisi: So I I will.
Scott I. Reed: Well, do we want to record what?
Scott I. Reed: What value do we want to record for 50?
Scott I. Reed: Or are we just going to leave that overnight?
Carlo Parisi: I I would say let's record now because it seems quite stable and so I see it's
Carlo Parisi: about 500.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. I mean, it's obviously moving around a good bit,
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, it's. Yeah. Yeah, but 500, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: but it's around 500.
Carlo Parisi: And and you know, tomorrow morning I don't,
Carlo Parisi: which is the the weather there which is the indoor temperature. But yeah,
Carlo Parisi: tomorrow morning you can record also another number and say well this is now
Carlo Parisi: and this is tomorrow morning.
Carlo Parisi: At this time, with this ambient temperature, yeah,
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: 'cause these tests are just to check the heat losses.
Carlo Parisi: So right now I my understanding is that you guys have quite good temperature
Carlo Parisi: there.
Carlo Parisi: I mean, you have probably 68 Fahrenheit in indoor,
Carlo Parisi: so.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, probably tomorrow morning.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: I don't know.
Carlo Parisi: It could be more colder, I don't know.
Scott I. Reed: The.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, it'll be a little chillier in here.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, this is kind of a warehouse building.
Scott I. Reed: You you've been here, Carlos, you know that.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: So it won't be.
Scott I. Reed: It won't be freezing out.
Scott I. Reed: It won't be freezing here, but it won't be.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Scott I. Reed: It won't be 75 either so.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Yeah.
Carlo Parisi: I'm I'm satisfied with this test right now. So yeah, let's.
Carlo Parisi: Let's just keep like these.
Carlo Parisi: And then tomorrow we can go to 100 down.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Carlo Parisi: As I said, I'm gonna log in tomorrow morning and
Carlo Parisi: check where you guys are and yeah.
Carlo Parisi: Then have a conversation.
Carlo Parisi: What are about next step?
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Well, we will just let it go from here.
Carlo Parisi: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: Scott actually just stepped away for a second to to take a call,
Carlo Parisi: Sure.
Scott I. Reed: but I think we're basically.
Scott I. Reed: Set to kind of adjourn for the day, then.
Carlo Parisi: Yep.
Carlo Parisi: Thanks.
Scott I. Reed: OK. Anybody else have any comments or
Scott I. Reed: questions?
Tom M. Pfeiffer: No, I don't have any guys.
Tom M. Pfeiffer: Take care.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Well then.
Scott I. Reed: Some combination of us.
Scott I. Reed: We'll all talk again very soon.
Carlo Parisi: OK.
Carlo Parisi: Thank you.
Scott I. Reed: Bye bye.
Scott I. Reed: I'll leave this up in case anybody wants to hop in later, but.
Carlo Parisi: OK, sure.
Scott I. Reed: We'll we won't be doing much.
Carlo Parisi: Yep, thanks.
Scott I. Reed: So I told him I just leave this up in case they wanted to hop in later, but.