Benjamin A. Baker: Right, there's.
Scott I. Reed: Hey, Ben.
Benjamin A. Baker: An echo.
Benjamin A. Baker: So I think you meant T or PC.
Benjamin A. Baker: TE 001 in the gas space.
Scott I. Reed: I'm getting an echo.
Benjamin A. Baker: You wrote easy.
Scott I. Reed: I'm not sure where.
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, you're getting an echo too.
Scott I. Reed: Are you getting a necklace well?
Benjamin A. Baker: Say something again.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I'm still getting that.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, it's a late echo.
Benjamin A. Baker: Not much.
Scott I. Reed: Unplug this mic.
Scott I. Reed: Can you hear me now?
Benjamin A. Baker: Yep.
Scott I. Reed: To Mike.
Scott I. Reed: So what?
Scott I. Reed: What were you saying?
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, when you were writing about the corbel.
Benjamin A. Baker: Gas space being at 33 C It says.
Scott I. Reed: I'm and I'm not even sure that's actually measuring the gas space.
Scott I. Reed: Because I it's been a long time, but I thought that maybe 1-2 and three
Scott I. Reed: were the ones that we stud welded on there.
Scott I. Reed: Through the exterior of the core.
Benjamin A. Baker: X-ray.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Which would mean that one that number. Sorry,
Scott I. Reed: that one could actually be welded up there to the top of the flange somewhere,
Scott I. Reed: in which case it might not be very hot.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, well, it's reading now. Very hot.
Scott I. Reed: 33°.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: Now is the beginning easy or PC?
Scott I. Reed: EC.
Scott I. Reed: It's one right here.
Scott I. Reed: That mouse is pointing at.
Benjamin A. Baker: Right, right.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK, in the chat you wrote EC.
Scott I. Reed: Did I?
Benjamin A. Baker: But that's minor.
Benjamin A. Baker: So.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, that's a typo. Fat fingered it.
Benjamin A. Baker: Upper platenum.
Benjamin A. Baker: So it could be just on the vessel head itself then?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I was trying to find documentation that
Scott I. Reed: said where those were at, but I I haven't been able to find it.
Scott I. Reed: I don't know what document to look in.
Scott I. Reed: I'm sure there was a report provided somewhere that says, hey,
Benjamin A. Baker: Well, that is.
Scott I. Reed: this is physically where these are at, but.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, we got air temperature at 25.7.
Scott I. Reed: Not worked.
Benjamin A. Baker: 23 below 23, so maybe that one's 2° high up there.
Benjamin A. Baker: Umm.
Scott I. Reed: Which one are you looking at?
Benjamin A. Baker: 1-2 and three.
Benjamin A. Baker: And then four, looking at those thermal couples.
Scott I. Reed: Right.
Benjamin A. Baker: So you see 25232331.
Benjamin A. Baker: So on 4.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Hold on.
Scott I. Reed: You're looking at. Are you looking at the PCITES?
Scott I. Reed: These ones.
Scott I. Reed: Yes, those are the ones that are on the
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah. Yeah. Well.
Scott I. Reed: exterior insulation.
Benjamin A. Baker: Outside of the insulation.
Scott I. Reed: Outside, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: So they've got all that insulation between them and the core.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: So what?
Benjamin A. Baker: I'm looking at with that is the one at the top is a little higher than the other
Benjamin A. Baker: two below.
Benjamin A. Baker: And then the one clear over at 30 at 4:00 on the other side?
Benjamin A. Baker: Is a whole almost 10° more.
Benjamin A. Baker: See. Yeah, that that's quite a bit warmer compared
Benjamin A. Baker: to the others.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, that one's that one's down there near
Scott I. Reed: those magnets.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: It may be picking up some heat from, you know,
Scott I. Reed: there being less insulation down there right where the magnets are.
Benjamin A. Baker: Let's in in between cancellation.
Scott I. Reed: Well, I'm just saying that if you look at the
Scott I. Reed: way those magnets are, you haven't seen them, but they you know,
Scott I. Reed: they've got the, there's less insulation in that area.
Scott I. Reed: There's a chance that you may be picking up some heat off the pipe.
Scott I. Reed: That's kind of near that area.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: I can send you a picture of it if you want.
Scott I. Reed: I can take a picture of my phone and.
Benjamin A. Baker: Sure.
Scott I. Reed: Or I can walk over there with my laptop and try to show ya.
Benjamin A. Baker: Sure, whatever. It's fine.
Scott I. Reed: You want to see it?
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, I mean that kinda.
Benjamin A. Baker: I'm just looking at it, trying to assess what does it mean,
Benjamin A. Baker: you know?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. Give me a second here.
Benjamin A. Baker: Kinda like.
Scott I. Reed: Turn my camera on.
Benjamin A. Baker: Another peculiarity, there is two and three.
Benjamin A. Baker: I that's a / 20.
Benjamin A. Baker: 3° different for the lower one being colder.
Benjamin A. Baker: On the surface.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: So you're looking at TCI, TE002 and 003 that are both at the same
Scott I. Reed: temperature.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah. So just trying to get spatial orientation
Benjamin A. Baker: right of all those things and understand does it make sense?
Benjamin A. Baker: That's basically what I'm doing.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: So there's two right there on the outside of that insulation.
Benjamin A. Baker: Three. OK. I believe those two are rather close,
Benjamin A. Baker: right?
Scott I. Reed: You can see. Sorry, it's out for me to do this.
Benjamin A. Baker: That's OK.
Scott I. Reed: You see him there?
Scott I. Reed: How far apart they are?
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, they were about four feet apart, is what it looked like for two and three,
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: and they're pretty much identical, OK.
Scott I. Reed: Now I'm gonna go find 4 here, OK?
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Sorry, it's hard for me to hear 'cause this
Scott I. Reed: thing is.
Benjamin A. Baker: Kinda loud in there.
Benjamin A. Baker: I don't hear a thing over here.
Scott I. Reed: See if I can even get in here.
Scott I. Reed: Umm.
Scott I. Reed: She will.
Scott I. Reed: Even I don't know.
Scott I. Reed: Can you see?
Scott I. Reed: Can I see it from there?
Scott I. Reed: So.
Scott I. Reed: You see this wire here?
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: And you see the tape up there.
Benjamin A. Baker: I can see. Yes, I see it.
Scott I. Reed: That's, that's where it's taped.
Benjamin A. Baker: And that is #3.
Scott I. Reed: And if you look.
Scott I. Reed: At this.
Benjamin A. Baker: Or or four.
Scott I. Reed: 4M housing and everything.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: It's hard.
Scott I. Reed: I don't even show it to you, but you can't really see in there without
Scott I. Reed: being in there.
Scott I. Reed: But there is insulation around the pipe, but it's much thinner.
Benjamin A. Baker: There's a cage.
Scott I. Reed: Insulation.
Scott I. Reed: Another locations like I can.
Benjamin A. Baker: Right. It's also underneath so that the heat
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I mean, I there's definitely a temperature
Benjamin A. Baker: build up.
Scott I. Reed: difference I can feel underneath there with my hand,
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, you should be able to easily fill it.
Scott I. Reed: and it is definitely warmer than the skin.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK, so believable.
Scott I. Reed: So I I think that's absolutely true.
Scott I. Reed: That that one's hotter.
Benjamin A. Baker: And let's see here. Whoops.
Scott I. Reed: 'Cause like the skin temperature on the pcat where those other two are.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: 3:00 and 2:00.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: It it feels cool to the touch, whereas down there feels warm to the
Benjamin A. Baker: Right.
Scott I. Reed: touch.
Benjamin A. Baker: It should be about room temperature, just slightly elevated,
Benjamin A. Baker: so maybe 75° somewhere around there.
Scott I. Reed: Do it again.
Benjamin A. Baker: That's I mean 20° C is.
Benjamin A. Baker: Room temperature.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: Let's see.
Benjamin A. Baker: So.
Benjamin A. Baker: Saw those two and where? Where do you think TE 1 is?
Scott I. Reed: I.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, I I wish I could go up there and look and
Scott I. Reed: tell you, but my suspicion is it.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: It's tack well that either just below.
Benjamin A. Baker: Well TE 1 looks like it's in the air.
Scott I. Reed: You tackle it just below on the core or it's up on top of it.
Benjamin A. Baker: I bet it's above the some sort of insulation.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, I think it might be connected to the
Scott I. Reed: actual.
Scott I. Reed: Plans on top, but I don't know that.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: And then.
Scott I. Reed: Because if it's just if it's just tack welded,
Scott I. Reed: you know if the the post is tack welded to that bland and then it's just bolted
Scott I. Reed: to that, it's whatever he's being conducted
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: through that flange.
Benjamin A. Baker: Right.
Scott I. Reed: And with that air, I mean there is, you know, the top of the pcat.
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, wait, where you were?
Benjamin A. Baker: Where were you talking about Pcte? One or PCIT 1?
Scott I. Reed: Yes, no, P CTE1O. You wanna know about PCITE 001?
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, that one too.
Benjamin A. Baker: Just to get a spatial orientation of where it's at.
Scott I. Reed: Give me a second.
Scott I. Reed: I gotta unplug something.
Scott I. Reed: Take you over there again.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: Here on mute.
Scott I. Reed: I wish this was like my phone where it had.
Scott I. Reed: A way to flip the camera around.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: So alright.
Scott I. Reed: So you can see the tape of the one that we were looking at before.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: And then you can see there there's a wire that goes up underneath the deck on the
Scott I. Reed: floor.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yes, I see it.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: So I'm gonna go up on this ladder here.
Scott I. Reed: Give me a second.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: I gotta drag the ladder around.
Scott I. Reed: See it.
Benjamin A. Baker: Let's see.
Benjamin A. Baker: Hold steady.
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, right there.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yes, I see that the heat tape.
Scott I. Reed: The tape.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yep. And the one on there. OK, so that's.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, so it's.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, it's just stuck on some tape that's
Scott I. Reed: wrapping some insulation.
Benjamin A. Baker: And then all the coolant lines are clear outside here.
Benjamin A. Baker: So it's only on that.
Benjamin A. Baker: Upper gas area.
Scott I. Reed: Sorry, it's hard for me to hear you.
Benjamin A. Baker: Got it.
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, sorry, I I was just saying it's on the.
Benjamin A. Baker: The upper gas area like the.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: Me. Look at that picture again.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK, so that that should be slightly hotter
Scott I. Reed: This is.
Benjamin A. Baker: then, huh?
Scott I. Reed: This one right here.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK. That makes sense.
Scott I. Reed: You see this one right here.
Scott I. Reed: This is your ambient air one.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: It's right at the deck level.
Scott I. Reed: E CTE016.
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh yes, it's right in front of this whole thing
Benjamin A. Baker: in that Channel.
Scott I. Reed: So I mean that one is definitely in truly ambient air,
Scott I. Reed: whereas your other ones the ambients that are above the sterlings above, well,
Benjamin A. Baker: Getting inputs.
Scott I. Reed: not sterling's anymore heat exchangers.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: I don't.
Scott I. Reed: I'll try to show you one of them maybe.
Scott I. Reed: I don't know if you can.
Scott I. Reed: I can't tell what you're seeing, but.
Scott I. Reed: You see the one that's going into the heat exchanger or above the heat
Scott I. Reed: exchanger. It's just in the air.
Benjamin A. Baker: I think so.
Benjamin A. Baker: There's like a zip tie right above there holding it.
Scott I. Reed: There's there's a cross brace that has a thermocouple on it.
Benjamin A. Baker: Going in.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: And it's just sticking out in the air.
Scott I. Reed: It's 5 inches, 6 inches above the top of those Phoenix
Scott I. Reed: changer plates.
Benjamin A. Baker: Of that flange, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: So those are all your ambient ones.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: Well, do you know what number that one is?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. Yeah. Give me a second.
Benjamin A. Baker: Or I don't know if they're on that screen.
Scott I. Reed: They're not. They're not on you right now.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Take you back and plug you in so I can hear you.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: So.
Scott I. Reed: Those ambient ones.
Scott I. Reed: Are.
Scott I. Reed: These ones that last one I showed you.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: It's 6 inches above the plate.
Scott I. Reed: That's that one.
Scott I. Reed: But you can see that just sitting there in the area like 27° above those plates.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, 27 to 29.
Scott I. Reed: And at 4 barrel, one is picking up more temperature than
Scott I. Reed: that, so it probably is on the top there
Scott I. Reed: voltage I guess.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah. And then the PCIT E1, which is the one that was on the air
Scott I. Reed: Thanks.
Benjamin A. Baker: portion up above that is just a little lower 28.
Scott I. Reed: It was on the what?
Benjamin A. Baker: I'm just look comparing that first one on the left.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, that was on the outside of that
Scott I. Reed: insulation tape taped on there.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yep.
Benjamin A. Baker: So it seems about right, you know is what I'm checking like.
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, does it look right comparably to others
Scott I. Reed: No. Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: and with the location that it's at?
Benjamin A. Baker: So.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: Now notice.
Benjamin A. Baker: What? So look at TE 2:00 and 3:00.
Scott I. Reed: TE 2 and three.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yep.
Scott I. Reed: Right.
Benjamin A. Baker: Notice how it's like 30° different.
Scott I. Reed: Right.
Benjamin A. Baker: I wonder why?
Benjamin A. Baker: Or well, first of all, where are they?
Scott I. Reed: Well, so those are those are stud welded to the
Benjamin A. Baker: It's gonna.
Scott I. Reed: exterior of the core.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: And I don't know exactly where they are.
Scott I. Reed: That's what I was hoping to try to find some pictures of when they stud.
Scott I. Reed: Well, of those 'cause, those were stud welded here at CEI.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: So I don't.
Scott I. Reed: I don't know where they're at and I wouldn't trust that pnid as far as being
Benjamin A. Baker: And.
Scott I. Reed: accurate, because when I look at the P and ID that
Scott I. Reed: I have, which should be more accurate.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: It shows.
Scott I. Reed: It shows P CTE2AS being in the core barrel area where the knack is.
Scott I. Reed: And three as being basically in line with the heaters.
Benjamin A. Baker: See you in line with the heaters.
Benjamin A. Baker: In line with the heaters, what? What is?
Scott I. Reed: Where is.
Scott I. Reed: Like line up in roughly with, you know, in the place where the heaters are.
Scott I. Reed: It's it's perpendicular to the heaters.
Benjamin A. Baker: There in the core region.
Scott I. Reed: Whereas in the picture that you're seeing on the screen,
Scott I. Reed: it looks like it's like right up right above the plenum.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, and.
Scott I. Reed: I don't.
Scott I. Reed: I don't think that's true.
Benjamin A. Baker: And that's why when I see that I'm like, well, wait a second,
Benjamin A. Baker: even if they're both on the outside, why is it that the lower one is
Benjamin A. Baker: significantly cooler than that upper one?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I I can't can't answer that. We can look at see if there's anything
Scott I. Reed: obvious. If you look at my computer.
Scott I. Reed: Look at the graduation of temperature across the heater.
Scott I. Reed: You go from 195 at the top of it, down to 125 at the bottom of it.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Benjamin A. Baker: And it looks like the bottom of it's heating up.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I already can look at the actual numbers
Scott I. Reed: rather than the graph, right? 194 and 132 that there's.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: Well, I was just looking at your chart, it looks like the bottom portion is
Benjamin A. Baker: slowly as has a steeper slope going up than the other.
Scott I. Reed: Right.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. Which makes sense. 'cause. I mean, there's not any heater in that portion of
Scott I. Reed: that.
Scott I. Reed: You know that portion of those heaters?
Scott I. Reed: Heater cores.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: That's down in the plenum portion of it. So there is.
Benjamin A. Baker: Well, also heat settling, sort of, you know.
Scott I. Reed: Doing yeah, it is not heat being introduced.
Scott I. Reed: Other than that slowly being.
Scott I. Reed: Transferred from the cartridge down into that locations, everything heats up.
Benjamin A. Baker: Here. So what's let's see yet.
Benjamin A. Baker: Says 350 on this heater watts.
Benjamin A. Baker: Range or 300.
Scott I. Reed: Oh dear yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: Is that yeah, power there being put in.
Scott I. Reed: Say what?
Benjamin A. Baker: I was just looking at this heater at the chart on the right.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: That has it.
Benjamin A. Baker: About 300 watts. Is that for heater one then?
Scott I. Reed: Yes.
Scott I. Reed: Yep.
Benjamin A. Baker: And each heater's capable of 3. 5 kilowatts.
Scott I. Reed: About 3000. Yeah. Yeah, Yep, Yep.
Benjamin A. Baker: A little less than 10%.
Benjamin A. Baker: Power at the moment.
Scott I. Reed: Keep in mind that when you're on this lower end of the power.
Scott I. Reed: They're not.
Scott I. Reed: You're not terribly accurate in your power meters, so.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: I'm sure it can. It can.
Benjamin A. Baker: Well, based on the chart, just look at the fluctuations that are
Benjamin A. Baker: inherently in there.
Benjamin A. Baker: You know, it could either really be.
Benjamin A. Baker: Varying by about that amount, or maybe the sensor and measuring it also
Benjamin A. Baker: has some.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I don't.
Scott I. Reed: I don't know what causes.
Scott I. Reed: Those changes?
Scott I. Reed: But I'm not.
Scott I. Reed: It's they're always noisy, even when you're up at higher powers.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: You still have a lot of time.
Benjamin A. Baker: You know, does it maintain about the same magnitude?
Scott I. Reed: Oh yeah, I think so.
Scott I. Reed: I don't.
Scott I. Reed: I think you tend to have these same little spikes dips in there.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: So your percentage would drop because you're comparing it to a larger value.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I I mean I it's been a while since I run
Benjamin A. Baker: As you go up.
Scott I. Reed: it at power.
Scott I. Reed: So I mean, it's all out of memory from months ago.
Benjamin A. Baker: Right.
Scott I. Reed: But I'm not.
Scott I. Reed: I'm not real confident in that answer.
Benjamin A. Baker: And that would make sense.
Benjamin A. Baker: But if the power regulation.
Benjamin A. Baker: I mean, has a certain inherent variation that is
Benjamin A. Baker: more of a magnitude based one.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Give me when you need it.
Benjamin A. Baker: Let's see.
Scott I. Reed: Were you involved in reading the and reviewing the test plan?
Benjamin A. Baker: I mean, it's on it, but I didn't look through it all that
Benjamin A. Baker: well.
Benjamin A. Baker: In this latest one right?
Scott I. Reed: As we had some questions.
Scott I. Reed: It's fine.
Scott I. Reed: I'm trying to think that was.
Benjamin A. Baker: What to do clarification.
Scott I. Reed: You know, I just want to make sure we understood
Scott I. Reed: some stuff in here because.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: Listen 'cause, you have such worrying words like you
Scott I. Reed: want.
Scott I. Reed: Are you looking for the?
Scott I. Reed: Well, let's let's get down in section where
Benjamin A. Baker: I had to bring it up.
Scott I. Reed: we're at.
Scott I. Reed: Is this where we're at, right?
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, you have a a copy of it.
Scott I. Reed: Now 13C5.
Scott I. Reed: Huh.
Benjamin A. Baker: You have a copy of the test plan.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, I'm sorry.
Benjamin A. Baker: The on desktop or anything?
Scott I. Reed: I can share my screen.
Scott I. Reed: Not on that computer, but I'll share this screen line instead
Scott I. Reed: of that one.
Benjamin A. Baker: K or drop it in a chat or something.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I could try doing that for some reason
Scott I. Reed: earlier today.
Scott I. Reed: I didn't like it when I did try to do that.
Scott I. Reed: I don't know if it because it's recording or.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, it won't let me drop things in this chat.
Benjamin A. Baker: Hmm, OK.
Scott I. Reed: That's all right.
Scott I. Reed: I can share my screen.
Scott I. Reed: It's not like it's gonna.
Scott I. Reed: Mess this up.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, we'll just be recording something that's
Scott I. Reed: not saying.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: See where the thing go?
Scott I. Reed: Google.
Benjamin A. Baker: While you're doing that, I'm gonna go grab my breakfast.
Scott I. Reed: Oh heck, that's the wrong document.
Benjamin A. Baker: Hey, Justin.
Justin Johnson: Morning, guys.
Justin Johnson: How's it going so far?
Benjamin A. Baker: Not bad.
Scott I. Reed: Tom's pizza. Far, yes.
Justin Johnson: Awesome.
Scott I. Reed: I was trying to find a test plan.
Scott I. Reed: To ask some questions.
Justin Johnson: Hold on just a SEC.
Justin Johnson: Let me find it.
Justin Johnson: Should it came from Jordan?
Justin Johnson: Hoolihan.
Justin Johnson: Let's see.
Justin Johnson: Pdr number.
Justin Johnson: Oh, I don't know.
Justin Johnson: Do you want me to just e-mail this one to you?
Justin Johnson: Oh, except she didn't include it.
Scott I. Reed: 'Cause, I don't think it's actually released.
Scott I. Reed: If I go into the DD is it wasn't at least.
Justin Johnson: All right, hold on.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I just e-mail it to me. That'll be easier.
Justin Johnson: Well, the copy she sent back out doesn't have
Justin Johnson: everything on it. So hold on a second. I gotta find it.
Scott I. Reed: Oh yeah, that's that's what I found is I have the
Scott I. Reed: copy she sent, which has just just the DVR in the
Justin Johnson: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: comments. There's no no document.
Justin Johnson: All right, hold on.
Justin Johnson: OK, I'm gonna send you.
Justin Johnson: So you only got approved.
Justin Johnson: Josh sent it to us on 2/25.
Justin Johnson: I just resent it to you, Scott.
Benjamin A. Baker: So Scott, you have all girls.
Benjamin A. Baker: Your kids.
Scott I. Reed: I I have the six six girls.
Benjamin A. Baker: 6 girls.
Justin Johnson: Oh wow.
Justin Johnson: Way to go.
Scott I. Reed: Yep.
Justin Johnson: It started with four boys, but we.
Justin Johnson: The last one came out a girl.
Benjamin A. Baker: And my neighbor has five girls.
Justin Johnson: I hope they're not all as spicy as my girl.
Scott I. Reed: You know, they're all very mild.
Scott I. Reed: They're they're like their mother.
Scott I. Reed: They're not like their father.
Scott I. Reed: Which is a good thing.
Scott I. Reed: 'Cause, we are always doing crazy stuff as kids,
Scott I. Reed: but they have not done any crazy things.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: My wife's family is all girls except for the 2nd to last, so I think yeah,
Benjamin A. Baker: they have 5 girls.
Scott I. Reed: I'm sorry, what did you say?
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, I was just comparing to my wife's family.
Benjamin A. Baker: She has AI was trying to think if it's five girls.
Benjamin A. Baker: Going to be 4-5. Yeah, 5 girls, 1 boy. The boy was towards the end.
Benjamin A. Baker: And yeah, certainly more mild than what my family
Benjamin A. Baker: is.
Scott I. Reed: So we're this is where we're at here in these thirteen step 13, right?
Scott I. Reed: We're doing the 180, so the next step is.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Justin Johnson: OK.
Scott I. Reed: See ya.
Scott I. Reed: Well, I need to change so small.
Scott I. Reed: Here we go.
Scott I. Reed: So the next thing we're gonna do is we're gonna cool it down to 100° C.
Scott I. Reed: And then when I put coolant in it.
Scott I. Reed: And then it looks like we're gonna go back up to.
Scott I. Reed: 100.
Benjamin A. Baker: 180 there.
Scott I. Reed: We will sit there for a while.
Scott I. Reed: 180 C and wait there.
Benjamin A. Baker: So.
Benjamin A. Baker: Is there something we're supposed to measure in between when we're up at those
Benjamin A. Baker: 180 C?
Benjamin A. Baker: Because we're looking at the difference between turning on the coolant, right?
Benjamin A. Baker: Right now it's empty.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, right now what you're seeing on the
Scott I. Reed: screen is empty. That's right.
Benjamin A. Baker: So.
Scott I. Reed: But we're gonna go to 180 when it's Scott pulling.
Benjamin A. Baker: So it's kind of a baseline then it's how I take that.
Scott I. Reed: Yes, yeah, but what I what?
Scott I. Reed: We're kind of concerned with here is, I mean here in these steps they talk
Benjamin A. Baker: But.
Scott I. Reed: about monitoring the temperatures, right?
Scott I. Reed: And that if you go above.
Scott I. Reed: If you go, you know if you get too high in pressure,
Benjamin A. Baker: I sure.
Scott I. Reed: you stop and cool things.
Scott I. Reed: And where does it say if you go above in temperature 14520?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I didn't highlight it.
Scott I. Reed: And if you go above 115, you call the temperature right?
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Well.
Scott I. Reed: In this step you don't.
Scott I. Reed: You don't have the pumps on.
Benjamin A. Baker: Can we forget that?
Scott I. Reed: Well, I think it's intentional because in the
Scott I. Reed: next step down here, you're only going to turn on one pump.
Benjamin A. Baker: I'll turn on the cooling pump.
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: So he's seeing then, naturally, what's happening?
Scott I. Reed: But the problem you I think you have is you're gonna turn one on and you're gonna
Scott I. Reed: go to 450.
Scott I. Reed: I think you're either lines are gonna boil and either pop your pressure release
Scott I. Reed: valve, or they're gonna dump all that stuff into
Scott I. Reed: your.
Benjamin A. Baker: You're saying we should have turned on all four?
Scott I. Reed: Well, that's, I mean you do it 1 by 1.
Justin Johnson: Sure.
Scott I. Reed: So here you do.
Scott I. Reed: Pump one right and then down here.
Scott I. Reed: Where's pump 2 at?
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, it says repeat no. Go ahead. That's it.
Scott I. Reed: It says on 14/14 the turn on pump 3 on 14/14.
Benjamin A. Baker: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: 22 You turn on pump 2.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. So they pump 3 anyway.
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh oh.
Scott I. Reed: So you're going and you're you're turning these other pumps on at different times.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, but that 450C is to do the setpoint, not that you're actually going and
Benjamin A. Baker: waiting to get to 450 C.
Benjamin A. Baker: So you just wanna create a ramp?
Benjamin A. Baker: And it's talking about asymmetric flow.
Justin Johnson: I think he's trying to ramp all the pumps differently.
Justin Johnson: So you can see if it changes the mass flow rate across the boarders.
Scott I. Reed: But aren't we? So you're gonna be.
Scott I. Reed: So you're starting at 50° and then.
Scott I. Reed: He came up five degrees C ramp rate.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, you're sorry. Sorry. You're at 180° C.
Scott I. Reed: All right. OK.
Scott I. Reed: This is still putting the coolant in.
Scott I. Reed: She went down to 100.
Scott I. Reed: And now you put the coolant in.
Scott I. Reed: And now you can go to 180.
Scott I. Reed: With a five degree C set change set point.
Scott I. Reed: To 180 and the ramp rate to 5K.
Scott I. Reed: On the Hex Tab Monitor post A6 temperatures.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, I assume from this step that you're
Scott I. Reed: actually telling it to go.
Scott I. Reed: You're not just setting it back to 185° C, not not applying it.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, I that's what I assumed.
Scott I. Reed: So you're applying it so it's it's reached its. Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: You're you're saying go.
Scott I. Reed: It's going from 100 to 180 at 5° C per minute.
Benjamin A. Baker: Mm hmm.
Scott I. Reed: And then you're going to be watching your Coolidge temperatures to see if anything
Scott I. Reed: goes over 115.
Scott I. Reed: Which I think there's good chance you are going to right because.
Scott I. Reed: You're ramping up to 180.
Justin Johnson: How much do we lose between the two ihx?
Justin Johnson: Is that what Carlos trying to find out? Is the heat loss between?
Justin Johnson: The down comers and the IHS.
Benjamin A. Baker: Say that again, Justin.
Justin Johnson: Like if we set the heaters at 180, the heat and the ihx is probably not 180.
Justin Johnson: Is that correct?
Benjamin A. Baker: Correct. Yeah. I mean, it's gonna take a while.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. So, I mean, you look at this straight,
Scott I. Reed: I guess you can't see the screen's the same.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, if you were to look right now, we're going to 180, right?
Scott I. Reed: That's what our set point is currently.
Scott I. Reed: The.
Scott I. Reed: The the lead.
Scott I. Reed: I'm sorry, the inlet to the ihx is at 190.
Scott I. Reed: Lead it is at 180 in the IX and the down Comer is at 160 Watt.
Benjamin A. Baker: Wait, your heaters are set to 180.
Benjamin A. Baker: But yeah, you have 190 somewhere.
Scott I. Reed: Yes. Yeah, because that's your. That's what.
Scott I. Reed: That's what the heaters 'cause that.
Scott I. Reed: Remember that the control for the heater is right next to the heater,
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, I see they're low.
Scott I. Reed: and you're gonna have more temperature at the top right as they all rise.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Justin Johnson: Interesting.
Scott I. Reed: It makes it makes sense.
Scott I. Reed: And the other thing to keep in mind is that that thermocouple that's measuring
Scott I. Reed: the temperature of the heater is probably located somewhere near the middle,
Scott I. Reed: maybe middle, middle, top of the heater rod.
Benjamin A. Baker: Uh huh.
Scott I. Reed: Not at the top, and there's definitely a difference in
Scott I. Reed: temperature between the top of that and the middle of that heater.
Scott I. Reed: So.
Justin Johnson: So we're for sure gonna boil the lines right 'cause there isn't the the boiling
Scott I. Reed: That's what I'm saying.
Justin Johnson: point's only was it 105°.
Justin Johnson: 106° just a little bit above water.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. So you're gonna definitely boil the
Scott I. Reed: coolant is what I'm seeing.
Scott I. Reed: I mean I what I don't know is I don't know.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, you're gonna have some natural
Scott I. Reed: circulation, right?
Scott I. Reed: But I don't.
Justin Johnson: Yeah, but not much.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I I think you're going to boil it. And I think that this this step here is
Scott I. Reed: going to say, well, OK.
Scott I. Reed: So so it says if it reaches 115 immediately go to 1454.
Benjamin A. Baker: You know which is mitigation steps?
Scott I. Reed: Coolant boiling protection.
Scott I. Reed: Yep. So I'm going to basically set.
Benjamin A. Baker: Set them.
Scott I. Reed: See less than the heater temperature.
Scott I. Reed: Well, which is, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: So it's gonna be somewhat less than 115.
Benjamin A. Baker: It could be more than that.
Benjamin A. Baker: So.
Benjamin A. Baker: So you got this.
Scott I. Reed: Please arise.
Benjamin A. Baker: Pcf blow off seems a minute.
Benjamin A. Baker: Open the current.
Scott I. Reed: Well, see, I don't know that I like this either.
Scott I. Reed: That you're gonna you. That means you gotta have somebody up
Scott I. Reed: there if you're gonna immediately open the coolant pressure, safety valve,
Scott I. Reed: you think you're gonna blow the one?
Benjamin A. Baker: You gonna blow it? Send someone up?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, send. Send somebody up there to be standing
Benjamin A. Baker: It's why.
Scott I. Reed: there when it blows.
Justin Johnson: So my vote is let's.
Scott I. Reed: Now wait. If both blows, do they go into the thing they they?
Benjamin A. Baker: The trap not going in.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, if they go off, you blow down, they go down.
Scott I. Reed: So they're not gonna be standing up there when it get in the face of something
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: that's oh, you know, good.
Justin Johnson: Maybe we just.
Benjamin A. Baker: Start one for five minute.
Justin Johnson: I know we're trying to order, but maybe we just skip to 15 and ask what
Justin Johnson: we're trying to achieve.
Justin Johnson: Let's ask Carla what he's trying to achieve by 14.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Justin Johnson: And because I mean, eventually say you get to the 180 without
Justin Johnson: blowing the valves, your next step is to then raise it to
Justin Johnson: 4:50.
Justin Johnson: And then sequentially turn on the pumps, right?
Justin Johnson: Isn't that what happens after that?
Scott I. Reed: I haven't.
Scott I. Reed: I haven't read beyond.
Scott I. Reed: This first step I we got here and I was confused.
Benjamin A. Baker: Here I'm gonna just see if I can.
Benjamin A. Baker: I'll send, I'll call Carlo.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I mean, if he's available, I think it it tells you to go to 450 or
Benjamin A. Baker: I bet you he is. He's.
Scott I. Reed: you turn on the pump for infantry.
Scott I. Reed: Isx one go to 450. Wait an hour. Turn the pump on for #3.
Scott I. Reed: Wait an hour.
Scott I. Reed: Well, it sounds like he's slowly turning thumps
Scott I. Reed: on.
Justin Johnson: Actually, you know, here's what I'm wondering.
Justin Johnson: If we charge at the HR.
Justin Johnson: Usi think, I mean, let me reread this and ask you a
Justin Johnson: different maybe interpretation.
Justin Johnson: You're only putting.
Justin Johnson: Coolant in up to the pump, so there shouldn't be coolant in the
Justin Johnson: lines inside the IHS.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, I see what you're saying.
Scott I. Reed: 'Cause, it's just in the hru.
Justin Johnson: It's just ready for this next step.
Justin Johnson: Where? So this makes more sense if that's what
Justin Johnson: it's trying to say is it's all the coolant's loaded.
Justin Johnson: You're ready to pump it when you tell it to. You heat up the system to 180.
Scott I. Reed: Hold on. Wait, let.
Justin Johnson: This weird heat.
Scott I. Reed: So what step are we in?
Scott I. Reed: So I'm following along with you.
Justin Johnson: So yeah, let's OK.
Justin Johnson: Let's go to 14 four.
Justin Johnson: So we charged the hrus, but the pumps aren't on,
Scott I. Reed: Yep.
Justin Johnson: so we shouldn't have coolant in the lines in the ihx.
Justin Johnson: It should be stopped at the pump.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Right. Well, yeah.
Justin Johnson: So then we heat up, we heat up through basically clear
Justin Johnson: through 14/6.
Justin Johnson: If there's no coolant in the lines, we're not going to blow the tips.
Scott I. Reed: So our our coolant temperature shouldn't be going up because there's no coolant in
Justin Johnson: Right. That's right.
Scott I. Reed: the lines.
Scott I. Reed: And so let me let me.
Justin Johnson: 'Cause what he wants to do.
Scott I. Reed: Ask.
Scott I. Reed: OK, that that does make sense.
Justin Johnson: Is. Yeah, 'cause. Now what he wants to do.
Scott I. Reed: Yep. So there's no crew in the line.
Scott I. Reed: So we're not getting hot.
Justin Johnson: In step 14.7, we're only gonna turn on pump 1,
Justin Johnson: so you're only drawing heat out of ihx 1.
Justin Johnson: So he's trying to see the imbalanced heat removal.
Justin Johnson: So then we're going to ramp the temperature up for everything to 4:50.
Justin Johnson: And then we're going to kind of watch.
Scott I. Reed: But only, but only one has any tool in it still?
Justin Johnson: That's right, you're only removing heat out of one ihx.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Justin Johnson: So he's trying to see does the mass flow rate?
Justin Johnson: We should see the mass flow rate in one one down,
Justin Johnson: Comer be more than the others at steady state because it's the only one that has
Justin Johnson: natural circulation. Driving beyond just air heat losses.
Justin Johnson: So you're gonna do that for a while through 1412?
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Justin Johnson: You're gonna come back to to steady state. Then you're gonna do the same thing with
Justin Johnson: three, which I assume is gonna be the the.
Justin Johnson: Opposite one. You know, I don't know for sure,
Justin Johnson: but it doesn't matter.
Justin Johnson: So you turn on three and you do the same thing again.
Justin Johnson: You let it.
Justin Johnson: You let it heat up, come to standby, check the mass flow rate.
Justin Johnson: Then you gonna do 2. So now you have 3HR U or three heat
Justin Johnson: extraction loops running, and then finally you're gonna get to
Justin Johnson: where you do pump 4.
Justin Johnson: So all four things are running.
Justin Johnson: You're gonna go to steady state.
Justin Johnson: And then you're gonna move on to the next test.
Scott I. Reed: I see.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I think that makes better sense.
Scott I. Reed: So I'm curious 'cause that is state these these involvement in rating that you know
Scott I. Reed: hold it for like 60 minutes.
Justin Johnson: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: The earlier ones were written for like 30 minutes and like we were talking with
Scott I. Reed: Carla yesterday, we were holding for a lot longer than
Scott I. Reed: that.
Scott I. Reed: To be what he was hoping was a better, steady state.
Justin Johnson: OK.
Scott I. Reed: So I'm not I.
Scott I. Reed: I kinda hope that he'll come on again.
Justin Johnson: Yeah, and he has that line, the kind of line at the bottom of the one
Scott I. Reed: As we do these.
Justin Johnson: that you're looking at 413 where it tells you it should be.
Scott I. Reed: 16.
Justin Johnson: Flatlined for more than 5 minutes.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, which where are you looking at? Oh, right here.
Justin Johnson: Also, just redial them.
Justin Johnson: Confirm that.
Justin Johnson: No more temperature changes greater than five to C have occurred for the last five
Justin Johnson: minutes. So I mean, this could be a lot longer than 60
Justin Johnson: minutes, right?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Are you right?
Scott I. Reed: Is this what you're looking at?
Justin Johnson: So scroll.
Justin Johnson: Yeah, scroll Scroll down.
Justin Johnson: So this is just to heat up. Then you're gonna turn on the pump in
Justin Johnson: 4/15.
Justin Johnson: And then.
Justin Johnson: If you read 419, it tells you hold for 60 minutes,
Justin Johnson: but confirm that there's no temperature change in 1419.
Justin Johnson: Confirm that no temperature change greater than five to three degrees C
Justin Johnson: occurred during the last five minutes.
Justin Johnson: Proceed to the next step after only after 5 minutes have passed without temperature
Justin Johnson: change.
Justin Johnson: So you could be stuck on 4/19 for more than an hour.
Scott I. Reed: Long time, yeah.
Justin Johnson: So this sequence of tests is gonna take all day.
Justin Johnson: Basically.
Scott I. Reed: Well, that's what I wonder is what happens if
Scott I. Reed: we don't get it all done in one day?
Scott I. Reed: You're gonna now have.
Justin Johnson: So I think if you didn't get it all done in one day,
Scott I. Reed: Schooling in the hands, I guess you.
Justin Johnson: you just stop it after you've gotten the whichever one you're working on,
Justin Johnson: then you'd cool everything down, but you would just ramp back up to that
Justin Johnson: point the next day.
Justin Johnson: You know what I mean?
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, back on Monday.
Justin Johnson: Yep.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Justin Johnson: You coming back on Monday, Scott? When are you going to come back?
Scott I. Reed: I'm supposed to fly back. I think. Wednesday is the day I actually fly,
Scott I. Reed: so I have Monday and Tuesday.
Justin Johnson: Awesome.
Scott I. Reed: And Tuesday.
Scott I. Reed: Sometime Tuesday, I'm leaving drive down to Baltimore.
Justin Johnson: Baltimore.
Justin Johnson: Sweet.
Benjamin A. Baker: So I sent Carlo a text.
Benjamin A. Baker: Haven't seen anything though.
Justin Johnson: We might have figured it out.
Justin Johnson: Ben, do you have here?
Justin Johnson: Ben, I'm gonna forward you this test plan.
Justin Johnson: I just sent Scott.
Justin Johnson: So you have a copy of it.
Justin Johnson: We're thinking there's no coolant in the ihx,
Justin Johnson: you just charge them at the hru so that once you turn the pump on,
Justin Johnson: then it floods coolant into the lines.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Justin Johnson: So you're heating up, and then you're you're gonna turn one
Justin Johnson: heat rejection system on at a time and see how it changes.
Justin Johnson: The.
Justin Johnson: How it changes the cooling and mass flow across the P cat?
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: Is the main idea there.
Benjamin A. Baker: That's what you're saying?
Justin Johnson: I think so.
Justin Johnson: I mean, hope so.
Justin Johnson: That's that's how I'm interpreting it right now.
Benjamin A. Baker: Well, even if it's wrong, it's a test.
Justin Johnson: That's right. Let's rock'n'roll.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: As long as it doesn't destroy anything.
Benjamin A. Baker: It won't hurt.
Scott I. Reed: I think last time like the test that we did previous to this one that we're doing
Scott I. Reed: right now when we went to 100 and we sat for like an hour and a half.
Justin Johnson: Oh wow.
Scott I. Reed: Before we were like I think, but I don't.
Scott I. Reed: I mean it's, you know, that's up to your interpretation of what
Scott I. Reed: steady state is.
Justin Johnson: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: Because, I mean, you're at steady state as far as
Scott I. Reed: temperature in the heaters, like forever ago.
Scott I. Reed: But your mass flow is still.
Scott I. Reed: Changing.
Justin Johnson: A little bit.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, since it's Carlo.
Scott I. Reed: It's still blocking.
Benjamin A. Baker: Or steady state means nothing's really changing on any sort of parameter.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, but that's always hard though, because, I mean, even when we quit,
Scott I. Reed: these were still slightly changing because the scratches gets more and more
Scott I. Reed: accurate, it auto adjust, right.
Justin Johnson: Right. So I mean, even right now you're barely moving,
Benjamin A. Baker: Right. But meaning if you look at the global
Benjamin A. Baker: picture of it?
Justin Johnson: right?
Justin Johnson: You're looking .0.
Scott I. Reed: Say what?
Justin Johnson: You're only .002 kilograms per second.
Justin Johnson: That that's changing. Something along those lines.
Justin Johnson: You know what I mean?
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Justin Johnson: Like those numbers are very, very, very close together.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, you're at .01 and then down here, you're at point.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, you have to take it with respect to what
Benjamin A. Baker: it is.
Scott I. Reed: 01/2.
Justin Johnson: Right. So.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Justin Johnson: You're 2 thousandths of a kilogram per second.
Justin Johnson: I mean, we're probably within the error of the
Justin Johnson: instrument by that point, right?
Benjamin A. Baker: Exactly. I mean.
Benjamin A. Baker: If the trends look like the overall settled out ish right.
Benjamin A. Baker: Sure, there can be a little variation.
Benjamin A. Baker: But.
Scott I. Reed: He will eventually level out and steady.
Scott I. Reed: It's just how long is it?
Scott I. Reed: For your ESA.
Justin Johnson: So I think you just stick with the.
Justin Johnson: We use the definition of five degrees C like if the if the temperatures aren't
Justin Johnson: fluctuating more than 5° C.
Justin Johnson: At in any place, really.
Justin Johnson: Then that's steady.
Benjamin A. Baker: Well, So what? I oh, OK.
Justin Johnson: That's what he says in the test plan.
Benjamin A. Baker: I was gonna say, I mean from steady state operations,
Benjamin A. Baker: I look at.
Benjamin A. Baker: If you can see the back curve of how you got to it.
Benjamin A. Baker: You know, if you're at 99% of a change.
Benjamin A. Baker: Then yeah, you're clearly steady.
Benjamin A. Baker: Where there's only maybe one more percent that could be gained by holding for
Benjamin A. Baker: another 8 hours or something, you know.
Justin Johnson: 'Cause, if you go back to that mass flow rate
Justin Johnson: graph, if you zoom back out to be in like
Justin Johnson: hundreds, they probably couldn't see the wiggles
Justin Johnson: right instead of thousands.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, it's changing the magnitude to something
Justin Johnson: Or where you barely see the wiggles.
Scott I. Reed: Well, you I'm not worried about the wiggles.
Benjamin A. Baker: that's.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, just more concerned about the the drift
Scott I. Reed: from one end of the graph to the other.
Justin Johnson: Right.
Scott I. Reed: Hey, you're you're still slowly going downward.
Scott I. Reed: I mean, that was that was wise.
Scott I. Reed: We are waiting for Carlos.
Scott I. Reed: So yeah, I feel like that's good enough, you know.
Justin Johnson: Can you see the T Cs? Are they showing someone?
Scott I. Reed: Which one?
Justin Johnson: I don't.
Justin Johnson: You pick one, I don't care.
Scott I. Reed: So here's your two that are across your IH X and then here's all the ones in the
Justin Johnson: Yeah, let's.
Scott I. Reed: LED.
Justin Johnson: So they're changing.
Justin Johnson: On the order of hundreds of degrees.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, but it.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, I mean that's true, but they don't tend to change very fast.
Scott I. Reed: You're saying in a 5 minute period, watch one and 5 minutes later,
Justin Johnson: Yeah. So if you just took, took a note, took a note now on the like maybe?
Scott I. Reed: see where it's at.
Justin Johnson: TE 11 and TE 13 or something and check in 5 minutes if it's still within you know a
Justin Johnson: half a degree or something or even a 10th of a degree.
Benjamin A. Baker: Two degrees or three.
Justin Johnson: I can see you happen to sit here forever to get very like Ben was saying,
Justin Johnson: you're getting very little gains or changes.
Justin Johnson: You know the numbers are moving for sure, but.
Benjamin A. Baker: Mm hmm.
Benjamin A. Baker: But it's over.
Benjamin A. Baker: What sort of rate is it going in it?
Justin Johnson: Right. So 'cause like, what's the what's the?
Benjamin A. Baker: Is it that you can project out what it's would take you know?
Justin Johnson: What's the T Cs accuracy?
Benjamin A. Baker: It's probably about two degrees.
Scott I. Reed: Two degrees.
Justin Johnson: 3°.
Scott I. Reed: ±2.
Justin Johnson: K.
Justin Johnson: So, I mean we're we're well with well inside
Justin Johnson: of that range, right?
Benjamin A. Baker: But by seeing a trend that that does tell you, obviously it's changing,
Benjamin A. Baker: but it's what rate of change. So that you said,
Benjamin A. Baker: Carlos said like within 5 minutes or something that if it OK, so.
Justin Johnson: 5 minutes, no more than five degrees.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, but that was on.
Scott I. Reed: That was on that.
Scott I. Reed: That was on that test step, which is not the same as the test that
Justin Johnson: That test, yeah.
Scott I. Reed: we're on now, right?
Justin Johnson: Right.
Benjamin A. Baker: Right, however, that does.
Benjamin A. Baker: What was that test step about?
Justin Johnson: That was 14.36.
Justin Johnson: Which one are you on now, Scott?
Benjamin A. Baker: See where did I put?
Scott I. Reed: Thank you.
Benjamin A. Baker: 14 three.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, 1327.
Justin Johnson: And how long have you been at that one?
Scott I. Reed: Well, let's see.
Scott I. Reed: So we started doing this.
Scott I. Reed: So step 9.
Scott I. Reed: So at 9:25 a 180° C was reached.
Scott I. Reed: That was when.
Scott I. Reed: It reached 180.
Justin Johnson: OK.
Scott I. Reed: 925.
Justin Johnson: Here an hour now already.
Scott I. Reed: South.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, an hour.
Scott I. Reed: So it's been almost exactly an hour.
Benjamin A. Baker: Did you say you are at 14227?
Justin Johnson: Power 13.29.
Scott I. Reed: Right. So we're at 1327 right now, right?
Benjamin A. Baker: 13.2.
Justin Johnson: 027.
Justin Johnson: You're waiting for the to stabilize.
Scott I. Reed: For all reasons, stabilize.
Benjamin A. Baker: Return.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. And we're going to record the total power.
Benjamin A. Baker: So 13 point 2.7, right?
Justin Johnson: Yep.
Benjamin A. Baker: Return to the Pcat's HMI main tab.
Benjamin A. Baker: Wait for the set point from 13. 25 to be reached and for all readings to
Benjamin A. Baker: stabilize.
Benjamin A. Baker: Maintain the system at equilibrium for at least 30 minutes.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: So have you been there for at least 30 minutes?
Justin Johnson: An hour.
Benjamin A. Baker: An hour.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Scott I. Reed: That's that's. That's when you. When you say you stabilized and then 30
Scott I. Reed: minutes when you stabilized.
Benjamin A. Baker: And then.
Benjamin A. Baker: Let's see what and the temperatures here.
Benjamin A. Baker: Let's just do a little recording of time.
Benjamin A. Baker: Do a stop watch.
Justin Johnson: Did you know when you took the screenshot by chance?
Scott I. Reed: No, I just do it again though.
Benjamin A. Baker: Let's go ahead and do it.
Scott I. Reed: If we're gonna. Yeah, let's let's go ahead and do it.
Scott I. Reed: I'll take a screenshot and we'll start our walk and we'll see, huh.
Benjamin A. Baker: Let's see. I'm just paying attention in the one of
Benjamin A. Baker: these thermal couples real quick.
Benjamin A. Baker: 68.
Scott I. Reed: The word better watch and give it 5 minutes.
Justin Johnson: Yep.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yep.
Justin Johnson: It's kind of funny, 'cause. There's like this.
Justin Johnson: This huge test is going along, but all you really gotta see is these
Justin Johnson: little screen.
Justin Johnson: See what I mean?
Justin Johnson: Like you can't actually see Peacock doing anything except just sitting in the
Justin Johnson: background.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, that's how running a reactor is.
Scott I. Reed: Yep.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, that's why we didn't even turn that
Scott I. Reed: camera on 'cause. There's like, there's nothing for anybody to see.
Justin Johnson: Right.
Scott I. Reed: These screens are better than anything.
Justin Johnson: Yep.
Benjamin A. Baker: So let's see.
Benjamin A. Baker: About.
Benjamin A. Baker: Minute gets you .2.
Benjamin A. Baker: So in 5 minutes, it's probably gonna be 1° or less.
Justin Johnson: The thing is, is it?
Justin Johnson: Is it oscillating or is it trending?
Justin Johnson: You know what I mean?
Benjamin A. Baker: Right, right.
Benjamin A. Baker: Well, so I I wrote down a value myself.
Benjamin A. Baker: I was just watching the 12.
Justin Johnson: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: And I had a 168.2.
Benjamin A. Baker: It's now gone up .23 above that, and I looked at my stopwatch to see
Justin Johnson: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: approximately. It's been about almost 2 minutes.
Benjamin A. Baker: So then I could extrapolate and try to guess what it could become.
Benjamin A. Baker: So I think it's.
Benjamin A. Baker: Gonna probably be about, I don't know, point.
Benjamin A. Baker: Let's say .5 above.
Benjamin A. Baker: Within 5 minutes so.
Benjamin A. Baker: Anyway, we'll see.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, 'cause, you've almost got 2 minutes now.
Scott I. Reed: And you're not really different in those temperatures in your ihx.
Justin Johnson: Yeah, it's kind of all the same.
Benjamin A. Baker: Wherever thermal mass there, stabilize it.
Justin Johnson: What's kind of interesting is like you're seeing.
Justin Johnson: Some are going up. Some are like slightly going down.
Justin Johnson: You know what I mean? So it's.
Benjamin A. Baker: Are you looking at that?
Benjamin A. Baker: You're seeing that.
Justin Johnson: Like if I look at a just on the two screenshots, right?
Justin Johnson: 11 on the far left hand side has went up in temperature at like .0 point 05.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Justin Johnson: But 13 on the far right side is going down in temperature slightly.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Justin Johnson: Then 1212 in the middle is going up slightly.
Justin Johnson: So you're seeing this things like cycling it's.
Justin Johnson: I mean it's like doing what it's supposed to, right.
Benjamin A. Baker: There could be currents in there. 'cause. That's the lbe region.
Justin Johnson: Right.
Justin Johnson: Yep.
Scott I. Reed: So like S CTE016.
Scott I. Reed: The ihx. That's the one.
Scott I. Reed: That's the deepest in there. It's clear down in the pipe.
Justin Johnson: Sorry.
Justin Johnson: And it's holding real steady, right?
Justin Johnson: It's changing on the like .03.
Benjamin A. Baker: See.
Justin Johnson: 15's same.
Benjamin A. Baker: Just over a minute ago.
Benjamin A. Baker: KSA 7.7 acres so.
Benjamin A. Baker: I mean, I've been watching 12.
Benjamin A. Baker: Because that's on the NAC loop.
Scott I. Reed: Which which 12PCT012 or S CTE012?
Benjamin A. Baker: End.
Benjamin A. Baker: Oh, PC.
Scott I. Reed: You're looking at the downcomer.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: See what that looks like.
Scott I. Reed: OK, what .7°.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Justin Johnson: So we got like a minute left.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: Point 7.8.
Benjamin A. Baker: Maybe.
Justin Johnson: Whatever it is, it's a lot less than five.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: I probably call it steady state, sure.
Benjamin A. Baker: Maintain less than 1° in 5 minutes.
Justin Johnson: At that point, it's almost like is the HVAC kicking on.
Justin Johnson: You know what I mean?
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, you can start to get other feedbacks.
Scott I. Reed: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Well, there's there's no HDAC in here.
Justin Johnson: So are you freezing? Is it cold?
Scott I. Reed: No, they've got.
Scott I. Reed: I mean the thing back behind me is the reactor.
Scott I. Reed: It produces heat.
Justin Johnson: Yeah, that's true.
Scott I. Reed: They've got a heater in here.
Scott I. Reed: I don't know what the temperature is in here, but it's alright.
Scott I. Reed: It's only cold when they open the doors.
Justin Johnson: OK.
Justin Johnson: That's funny.
Benjamin A. Baker: So has it been 5 minutes? Almost.
Justin Johnson: Yeah, that's five.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, it's been 5 minutes. So we're saying that it hasn't changed
Scott I. Reed: enough to matter.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, at most 1° in that place. So yeah.
Justin Johnson: Yep.
Benjamin A. Baker: That slopes pretty slow.
Scott I. Reed: So if you go back there and you look at your your flowers, you're like, all right.
Scott I. Reed: So.
Justin Johnson: Now you're on.
Justin Johnson: Now your graph's down to the 10 thousands.
Benjamin A. Baker: Well, and it's enough you can extrapolate.
Justin Johnson: The graph grid is now like what, 10 thousandths.
Justin Johnson: That's the the grid.
Justin Johnson: The grid spacing.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, if you change the grid spacing to let's
Scott I. Reed: I I think you've been on Facebook.
Benjamin A. Baker: say even 100 so.
Scott I. Reed: So we're, I mean we're saying we've been at
Scott I. Reed: equilibrium for 30 minutes.
Justin Johnson: Yep.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: So we're gonna document the time that we're calling it equilibrium.
Justin Johnson: Sounds good.
Scott I. Reed: Where's my chat?
Benjamin A. Baker: And you could take the most extreme value on there and quantify it to say.
Scott I. Reed: I guess I want someone.
Justin Johnson: I grabbed the.
Benjamin A. Baker: All the T Cs are less than or.
Justin Johnson: No.
Justin Johnson: You I took a screen clip of both of those things next to each other.
Justin Johnson: Scott, do you want me to put that in the chat
Benjamin A. Baker: Perfect.
Justin Johnson: chat with you?
Benjamin A. Baker: Over 5 minutes, yeah.
Justin Johnson: Yep.
Scott I. Reed: Sure.
Justin Johnson: Once you finish typing, I'll put it in so it kind of makes sense.
Scott I. Reed: OK, we say at hold on, I gotta get my clock to be at the right
Scott I. Reed: time at 10:33.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah.
Scott I. Reed: We sign in.
Benjamin A. Baker: Measure these two screenshots and called it steady state.
Justin Johnson: Yep.
Benjamin A. Baker: Over 5 minutes.
Scott I. Reed: All right, so there's a documentation.
Scott I. Reed: Report.
Scott I. Reed: An hour.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah. So 13. 2 today is recorded the total electric
Scott I. Reed: power.
Scott I. Reed: So yeah, go ahead and record your total electric
Scott I. Reed: power.
Scott I. Reed: 2250 pick a number.
Scott I. Reed: There is close.
Justin Johnson: Show for an hour.
Scott I. Reed: And chill for now.
Justin Johnson: OK, super.
Justin Johnson: You guys need to turn some music on or something there.
Benjamin A. Baker: Are those values readable?
Scott I. Reed: Which ones?
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: I guess I looking in the chat thing and wondering.
Benjamin A. Baker: So I looked at the screenshot to try to see it.
Justin Johnson: OK.
Scott I. Reed: Oh, you're saying you can't screenshot?
Justin Johnson: I.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, I can.
Benjamin A. Baker: Well.
Justin Johnson: I have it on a PowerPoint slide and they're clear on the PowerPoint slide.
Benjamin A. Baker: I.
Scott I. Reed: I can zoom in and read them on my computer, yeah.
Benjamin A. Baker: You can zoom in.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Benjamin A. Baker: Maybe I just need to download it.
Scott I. Reed: Yeah, they're a little bit fuzzy, but they're readable.
Benjamin A. Baker: OK.
Justin Johnson: I said I saved the PowerPoint, so they're well.
Justin Johnson: They're kinda clear in the PowerPoint screenshots off of teams so.
Benjamin A. Baker: Yeah, that team's when you gotta zoom in to see
Benjamin A. Baker: it.
Justin Johnson: Alright, I'm gonna go chill for a minute and then
Justin Johnson: I'll come back.
Benjamin A. Baker: Me too.
Justin Johnson: Thanks for holding down the Fort, Scott.
Scott I. Reed: Alright, I'm holding.